Entitled PC Gamers Whine about Rights

re: Entitled PC Gamers Whine about Rights

Demaar — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:49:12 GMT

Surprised Stardock put this out, they're a publisher and developer themselves. Most of it is wishful thinking and bad for the developer/publisher.

re: Entitled PC Gamers Whine about Rights

Binks — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:55:15 GMT

(Had a much longer, more thoughful post, that your comment system ate :( )

I'm going to take it from your post that you're not a modern gamer, or a computer person. No offense, but that's the impression I got from your grasp of the facts. The most interesting of your claims is that PC Gamers are the ones making the list, when Stardock isn't a company of gamers but a company of game developers who follow at least 9 of these (I don't know about #1, I've never had reason to want to return one of their games).

1. Nope, returns of PC games haven't been allowed for years.

2. Same dif. Demand with your money

3. Does not contradict. Update != Patch

4. Does not contradict. Update != Patch

5. False. This computer met the min. requirements for Timeshift, and got 3 FPS average at min. graphics settings. Adequately = >20 FPS on min graphics.

6. Agreed

7. Does not contradict. Redownload game != Update != Patch

8. Same dif. If they don't infringe on my rights (like they already are) then I don't feel like they think I'm a criminal

9. Then you've never played any current EA or Valve games. This needs to be stopped before it becomes normal.

10. CD in drive doesn't cut piracy down at all, at most you can claim it delays piracy by a day or two. Spore already has No-CD cracks and torrents out there, how effective can this really be? And as for not being a problem how about you try running one of these games on a laptop and getting your battery life halved for no good reason?

re: Entitled PC Gamers Whine about Rights

AbsolutelyNot — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:13:19 GMT

The rules regarding patches could really be cut down to one rule, something like,

"The entire dev team should be able to bring home, install, and play through their game without experiencing any major* bugs before it is considered ready for public consumption. After release, patches and updates should be provided until both the company and fan base are ready to move on."

As for rule ten, I have many times decided that, instead of standing up to grab the game that I want to play, I would just stay seated and surf the web. So letting me play the game without that effort makes a huge effect on how I spend my time. It's why I'm still playing Diablo 2.

*(Major bugs can range from system crashing to game changing to moment ruining. I.E. If Aeris(Aerith) died and then her ragdoll fell through the floor, that wouldn't be cool.)

re: Entitled PC Gamers Whine about Rights

brownribbon — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:24:40 GMT

Rule 9 example: Games made by Valve. Why do I need to log into their Steam server in order to play Half-Life I, a ten year old game that was originally sold as self-contained? It's ridiculous.

re: Entitled PC Gamers Whine about Rights

Roto13 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:00:45 GMT

I really don't think number 10 would cut down on piracy. How hard is it to burn a disc? It's still pointless whining, though. Maybe they ran out of real complaints at number 9.