Vote Machine: No Gay People Can't

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recycledbrooklyn — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:03:02 GMT

I can't, by the way, imagine why anybody with any intelligence would vote for John McCain. It's beyond me. I have my misgivings about Barack Obama; he's too conservative for my tastes, but really... I thought the choice was a no-brainer. Reaganomics drove the country into a recession by the late 80s. We were bailed out by the tech boom, which just barely managed to overshadow the Republican Contract On America. Bush II was also a proponent of Reaganomics. So were Alan Greenspan and Bill Clinton to a lesser extent. McCain represented just 4 more years of bad management.

Hence... I don't get it. Why would anybody vote for him, even four years ago when he still appeared to be less of a shill for crappy policy.

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recycledbrooklyn — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:40:57 GMT

These protection of marriage laws are a hateful sham on all Americans perpetuated by people who stand nothing to gain except for getting their bigoted yayas out.

And by the way, it was not black and hispanic voters that passed Prop 8. There aren't enough black and hispanic voters in California to have swayed the vote. The statistics are there to prove it. Even if every single black and hispanic voter in California had supported it (which is far from true) it wouldn't have been enough to influence the decision. The fact remains it was simply bigots of all colors.

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bananas15 — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:46:57 GMT

Jen,

wtf? Who said anything about anyone being anonymous? I merely said his name was indicative of his comments. Would you prefer I called him out over that using my name? Josh, btw. There we go, anonymous no longer.

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airheadgenius — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:47:48 GMT

Man, give the guy a minute! I am eagerly awaiting healthcare reform, but in the meantime I will continue to pay our health insurance invoices.

I do think it's amusing that his slogan "Yes we can" is the same as Bob the Builders though.

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zeitgeisty — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:46:25 GMT

By the way, I disagree with you that McCain has been made out to be an 'arch villain'.. That's total horse-shit... Every step of the way the other side has made a point to give respect to his service to our country.. It's been his negative campaign that's been rebuked... His choice of Palin, a complete shit-wit as Vice president.. the fact that he's surrounded himself by a bunch of fascist Bush neo-cons.. the same ones that slandered him in 2000..

No one's looked at McCain personally as an arch villain...

As for me, I was a hillary guy... I was even on the fence about voting for McCain for awhile... then he picked Palin, and that was fucking IT for me...

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Jen — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:34:02 GMT

@ Twoblueruins: Regardless of where it started (and I agree with Zeitgeisty--you are a moron), marriage is now regulated by the government, so due process and equal protection of the law apply. Of course, we can't even manage to pass a constitutional amendment guaranteeing equality to women, so don't hold your breath on equality for homosexuals. Frankly, until Tuesday, supposed legal equality for minorities wasn't getting anyone very far either.

I think Thea's got it right. Neither candidate could have won supporting gay marriage when the other didn't, but McCain supported his own state's constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, whereas Obama at least supports civil unions and a repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act. Amboabe's argument would be better made by someone who wouldn't have voted for McCain but for Obama's choice of VP.

@ Bananas15: You do realize you're anonymous as well?

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zeitgeisty — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:25:48 GMT

uh... you are wrong you ignorant muldoon... Marriage was around way before fucking christianity... It never fails to astound me how completely moronic so many people are... It just shows clearly how people like Sarah Palin come into power...

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twoblueruins — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:15:02 GMT

As far as I know, and I could be wrong, marriage is a religious practice and stems from Christianity. I'm all for gay partnerships, but calling them marriage would insult the beliefs of christians regardless of whether you believe it yourself.

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bananas15 — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:49:47 GMT

Anonymous Coward. Never a more apt name, you stupid shit.

Amboabe, I think this is one of your best posts yet. As someone with a gay sibling who has been with their partner for TWENTY FOUR years, it makes me sick that this union isn't recognised in the same way as if I, as a straight man, were to go out and elope with a random woman.

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Thea — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:24:16 GMT

Obama isn't president yet and the ban on same-sex marriage wasn't his initiative. Your personal preference Mr McCain did nothing for the gays either; just sic'd his has-been pitbull bitch on us city-dwelling elitists with our Sodom Gomorrah values.

Unfortunately those bans passed by popular vote... some speculate that all the black & hispanic voters who turned out for Obama were the ones who voted conservatively on gay marriage to upset the last measure that passed (in california). It'll be overturned again next election. In the meantime, tell your friends to come marry in massachusetts! Boston can be the rainbow Vegas!

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devonjamie — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:15:48 GMT

Ummm, no, I think you should ignore that. It's not too much. In fact, I far prefer your less-dating-related posts.

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amboabe — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:06:09 GMT

One post in 40 is too much????

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Anonymous Coward — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:56:24 GMT

Less politics, more dating.

Thanks!