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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.nerve.com/CS/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>The Screengrab : the dark knight knight</title><link>http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/the+dark+knight+knight/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: the dark knight knight</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007.1 (Build: 20910.1126)</generator><item><title>Forgotten Films: "American Perfekt" (1997) and "Diamond Men" (2001)</title><link>http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/2008/10/24/forgotten-films-quot-american-perfekt-quot-1997-and-quot-diamond-men-quot-2001.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">bd485f5c-a45b-491f-8e52-c79e7f680fc3:139715</guid><dc:creator>Phil Nugent</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=139715</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/2008/10/24/forgotten-films-quot-american-perfekt-quot-1997-and-quot-diamond-men-quot-2001.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/2008/10/23-End/aperfekt.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/2008/10/23-End/aperfekt.jpg" align="right" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The addition of Robert Forster to the cast of &lt;i&gt;Heroes&lt;/i&gt; may not be enough to save the faded series, but it&amp;#39;ll keep us from deleting it from our DVR for a while. We admit it, we love this guy, almost as much as Quentin Tarantino does. (We&amp;#39;d be willing to consider the possibility that we love him even more than Tarantino does, but let&amp;#39;s face it: presuming that you might love something even &lt;i&gt;as much as&lt;/i&gt; Tarantino does is a risky thing to do.) It was, of course, QT who put Forster back on the radar in 1987 by giving him the best role of his career as the sage but seducable bail bondsman Max Cherry and tucking his performance into a movie, &lt;i&gt;Jackie Brown&lt;/i&gt;, that actually got booked into theaters. But there are other people who were rooting for the man, and a year before &lt;i&gt;Jackie Brown&lt;/i&gt;, Forster played the male lead in a smart, quirky little neo-noir called &lt;i&gt;American Perfekt&lt;/i&gt; that bypassed theaters but caught a lot of people&amp;#39;s attention when it made it to cable. The movie, written and directed by Paul Chart, is a sinister-edged road movie about a criminal psychiatrist (Forster) who decides to take some personal time and conduct an experiment in which he decides to leave all important decisions to the flip of a coin. Inevitably, the decisions come to include matters of life and death. &lt;i&gt;Perfekt&lt;/i&gt; has its own weird vein of dark humor and a clutch of striking performances by the kind of actors who ought to be carrying big movies on a regular basis but have become more likely to find themselves playing third fiddle in a remake of &lt;i&gt;Basic Instinct&lt;/i&gt; (such as David Thewlis) or getting a role on &lt;i&gt;The Sopranos&lt;/i&gt; only to be replaced by another actress after your first short scene has hit the airwaves (such as Fairuza Balk). Balk enters the picture after Forster&amp;#39;s first road partner, Amanda Plummer, has Mysteriously Disappeared. The movie has slowly established itself an Internet cult, some of whose members got very excited, and in some cases indignant, when the coin-flip business turned up in &lt;i&gt;No Country for Old Men.&lt;/i&gt; Presumably all these people had never heard of Two-Face and subsequently died of massive heart attacks while watching &lt;i&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/i&gt;. 
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&lt;a href="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/2008/10/23-End/diamondmenlrg.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/2008/10/23-End/diamondmenlrg.jpg" align="left" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;Perfekt&lt;/i&gt; gives the viewer a choice taste of Forster at his most affable and untrustworthy. After his Oscar-nominated turn in &lt;i&gt;Jackie Brown&lt;/i&gt;, more filmmakers started seeking Forster out with hopes of tapping the vulnerable, world-worn quality that Tarantino showcased so well. The best of these films may be &lt;i&gt;Diamond Men&lt;/i&gt;, a gentle little charmer written and directed by Dan Cohen. (This film &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; actually make it into theaters. Unfortunately, it opened a couple of weeks after September 11, 2001, which was not a great time for small, underpublicized movies.) It too is a road movie: Forster plays Eddie, a widowed salesman for a jewelry company who spends his life tooling from one loyal customer to the next in the Pennsylvania area he has built up over the years. After a heart attack, he&amp;#39;s saddled with a younger, brasher partner (Donnie Wahlberg), ostensibly because the company&amp;#39;s insurance carrier will no longer let him serve as sole custodian of the merchandise in transit, though you&amp;#39;d have to be dumber than Eddie&amp;#39;s boss thinks he is not to recognize that his real function is to teach the ropes to his future replacement before being shoved out the door. And if you don&amp;#39;t expect the Wahlberg character to begin to warm to the older guy and care more about him than about his own career future, you must not have seen many movies. But Dan Cohen worked in the diamond trade himself, taking over his father&amp;#39;s business after his death, and the movie has the kind of affectionate feeling for and detailed knowledge of a way of life that can give a picture like this enough individuality to transcend its own formula. Eventually, Eddie find romance with Bess Armstrong, as a middle-aged New Age Buddhist ex-hooker. I remember a stretch there in the 1980s when Bess Armstrong&amp;#39;s face seemed like a hard thing to avoid if you wanted to watch TV or go to the movies; &lt;i&gt;Diamond Men&lt;/i&gt; was just about the first time I&amp;#39;d seen or thought of her since they canceled &lt;i&gt;My So-Called Life&lt;/i&gt;, and I don&amp;#39;t think I&amp;#39;ve seen or thought about her since, but the sheer weirdness of her role here must have gotten to her, because she&amp;#39;s rather appealing once you abandon the idea that she&amp;#39;s going to attack Eddie with an icepick that she keeps under a pillow. Then again, she probably benefited from being partnered with Forster. Both these movies incorporate the special quality that has helped keep Forster&amp;#39;s career alive even though it may have made him seem like less of a bet for superstardom than other actors whose reserves of charisma made them seem unapproachable: he just seems like really good company, whether you&amp;#39;re in the movie with him or watching him in the audience. Like a lot of great character actors, he makes being fun to watch seem like a lost art.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.nerve.com/CS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=139715" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/phil+nugent/default.aspx">phil nugent</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/donnie+wahlberg/default.aspx">donnie wahlberg</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/amanda+plummer/default.aspx">amanda plummer</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/no+country+for+old+men/default.aspx">no country for old men</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/quentin+tarantino/default.aspx">quentin tarantino</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/heroes/default.aspx">heroes</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/robert+forster/default.aspx">robert forster</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/jackie+brown/default.aspx">jackie brown</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/fairuza+balk/default.aspx">fairuza balk</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/the+dark+knight+knight/default.aspx">the dark knight knight</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/david+thewlis/default.aspx">david thewlis</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/diamond+men/default.aspx">diamond men</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/paul+chart/default.aspx">paul chart</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/bess+armstrong/default.aspx">bess armstrong</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/dan+cohen/default.aspx">dan cohen</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/american+perfekt/default.aspx">american perfekt</category></item><item><title>Tony Stark (i.e., Robert Downey, Jr.) to Bruce Wayne: "I Got Your Dark Knight Right Here, Pal!"</title><link>http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/2008/08/26/tony-stark-i-e-robert-downey-jr-to-bruce-wayne-quot-i-got-your-dark-knight-right-here-pal-quot.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">bd485f5c-a45b-491f-8e52-c79e7f680fc3:120663</guid><dc:creator>Phil Nugent</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=120663</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/2008/08/26/tony-stark-i-e-robert-downey-jr-to-bruce-wayne-quot-i-got-your-dark-knight-right-here-pal-quot.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/2008/08/23-End/1downey.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/2008/08/23-End/1downey.jpg" align="right" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Robert Downey, Jr., America&amp;#39;s scamp, has tasted what the other guys are selling and found it lacking. Downey, whose star vehicle &lt;i&gt;Iron Man&lt;/i&gt; got the summer movie season of 2008 off to a bang back when it opened several hundred years ago, has &lt;a href="http://www.moviehole.net/200814729-interview-robert-downey-jr-2"&gt;given an interview &lt;/a&gt; to moviehole.com in which he found it impossible to discourse on what made his movie so special, and what will make its sequel (which reunites him with director Jon Favreau and &lt;i&gt;Tropic Thunder&lt;/i&gt; co-writer Justin Theroux, who&amp;#39;s working on the script) so special, without talking about what makes it different from &lt;i&gt;The Dark Knight.&lt;/i&gt; Whereas &lt;i&gt;Iron Man&lt;/i&gt; is &amp;quot;a very simple movie&amp;quot;, Downey says of the Batman blockbuster, &amp;quot;It&amp;#39;s like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I&amp;#39;m like, &amp;#39;That&amp;#39;s not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.&amp;#39; I loved [&lt;i&gt;Dark Knight&lt;/i&gt; director Christopher Nolan&amp;#39;s] &lt;i&gt;The Prestige&lt;/i&gt; but didn&amp;#39;t understand &lt;i&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/i&gt;. Didn&amp;#39;t get it, still can&amp;#39;t tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I&amp;#39;m like, &amp;#39;I get it. This is so high brow and so f--king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.&amp;#39; You know what? F-ck DC comics. That&amp;#39;s all I have to say and that&amp;#39;s where I&amp;#39;m really coming from.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first thing to be said about this is that if anyone finds that their college education helps them to better understand why Jim Gordon didn&amp;#39;t dispatch a SWAT team to surround that boat that the Joker was aboard after Eric Roberts tipped him off, then that lucky viewer must have gone to a hell of a school. (Personally, my college education wasn&amp;#39;t even enough to keep me from pissing away eleven dollars on a ticket to &lt;i&gt;Vicky Cristina Barcelona.&lt;/i&gt;) Of course, Downey&amp;#39;s harsh words for DC Comics will set off little tremors in the minds of comics geeks who remember bitter wars of words on the playground between self-styled DC fanboys and Marvel zombies. However much he means it, it&amp;#39;s fun when these companies&amp;#39; star employees pretend to be infected with the virus, as anyone who ever saw Alan Moore take custody of the microphone at a comics convention in the 1980s, before he adopted a &amp;quot;plague on both their houses&amp;quot; attitude. It&amp;#39;s kind of like professional wrestling without the folding chairs. Downey himself seems to get a giggle out of his bad-boy act. &amp;quot;You know, you&amp;#39;re never too old to burn your bridges because I believe I have offended everyone,&amp;quot; he said. &amp;quot;I think I&amp;#39;ve got a couple more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the subject of his other summer hit, &lt;i&gt;Tropic Thunder&lt;/i&gt;, Downey has one thing he wants to make very clear: he is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; Kirk Lazarus, the looney, Oscar-festooned Method actor he plays, who vows to remain in character until he&amp;#39;s recorded the picture&amp;#39;s DVD commentary.  Speaking of the character, Downey says that &amp;quot;I think his fatal flaw is pretty much any and everyone&amp;#39;s who&amp;#39;s in entertainment, which is, on a certain level: &amp;#39;Oh if they believe they&amp;#39;re a fraud and that&amp;#39;s creating this neurotic state,&amp;#39; when the truth is, you are a fraud because you&amp;#39;ve gone too far into buying into your own hype and now you&amp;#39;re, literally crazy. I think Kirk Lazarus is nuts.&amp;quot; Discussing his decision to make Kirk Australian, Downey adds, &amp;quot;I just think that the Australian phenomenon reminds me more of American as with the British invasion from the &amp;#39;60s. But when I was thinking about Kirk Lazarus I was thinking about Colin Farrell, about Daniel Day Lewis and about Russell Crowe and whoever was the most effective tool for whatever my thing was, I would use.&amp;quot; When it was pointed out to him that a lot of viewers sure do see a lot of Crowe in there, Downey permitted himself a smile. &amp;quot;Now do you think he would see it as the highest form of flattery or do you think that he would be less than pleased?&amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.nerve.com/CS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=120663" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/phil+nugent/default.aspx">phil nugent</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/colin+farrell/default.aspx">colin farrell</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/russell+crowe/default.aspx">russell crowe</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/alan+moore/default.aspx">alan moore</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/christopher+nolan/default.aspx">christopher nolan</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/iron+man/default.aspx">iron man</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/jon+favreau/default.aspx">jon favreau</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/jr_2E00_/default.aspx">jr.</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/robert+downey/default.aspx">robert downey</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/marvel+comics/default.aspx">marvel comics</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/tropic+thunder/default.aspx">tropic thunder</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/dc+comics/default.aspx">dc comics</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/Daniel+Day+Lewis/default.aspx">Daniel Day Lewis</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/the+prestige/default.aspx">the prestige</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/eric+roberts/default.aspx">eric roberts</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/justin+theroux/default.aspx">justin theroux</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/the+dark+knight+knight/default.aspx">the dark knight knight</category></item><item><title>Indiana Does Linguistics: Nuking the Fridge with Professor Jones</title><link>http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/2008/07/31/indiana-does-linguistics-nuking-the-fridge-with-professor-jones.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">bd485f5c-a45b-491f-8e52-c79e7f680fc3:113716</guid><dc:creator>Phil Nugent</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=113716</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/2008/07/31/indiana-does-linguistics-nuking-the-fridge-with-professor-jones.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/2008/07/23-End/indiana-jones-papillon.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/2008/07/23-End/indiana-jones-papillon.jpg" align="right" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;In the overall scheme of the 2008 summer movie season, which began more than a month before summer did and is already entering its winding-down stage, &lt;i&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/i&gt; has established itself as the Movie of the Moment, &lt;i&gt;Sex and the City&lt;/i&gt; the stealth smash and favorite subject for op-ed kvetchers, and Robert Downey, Jr. the star who people root for as lustily as any of the characters he plays. By contrast, the fourth &lt;i&gt;Indiana Jones&lt;/i&gt; picture  performed about the way one might have expected: after months of hype and even some genuine expectations, it opened big, collected its first-weekend money, and moseyed its way out of first-run theaters. But its left something behind: &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/business/media/28fridge.html?_r=1&amp;amp;ref=media&amp;amp;oref=slogin"&gt;a new phrase in the English language.&lt;/a&gt; That would be &amp;quot;nuke the fridge&amp;quot;, which &lt;a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nuke+the+fridge"&gt;the urban dictionary&lt;/a&gt; defines thusly:
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&lt;i&gt;A colloquialism used to delineate the precise moment at which a cinematic franchise has crossed over from remote plausibility to self parodying absurdity, usually indicating a low point in the series from which it is unlikely to recover. A reference to one of the opening scenes of &amp;quot;Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull&amp;quot;, in which the titular hero manages to avoid death by nuclear explosion by hiding inside a kitchen refrigerator. The film is widely recognised by fans as a major departure from the rest of the series both in terms of content and quality.
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Guy 1: &amp;quot;Wow. Did you see the new Indy movie? What the hell was that? It was like I was having some kind of flu induced absurdist nightmare.&amp;quot;
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Guy 2: &amp;quot;Yep... did or did not that series permanently Nuke the Fridge?&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;
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The obvious reference point is of course to &amp;quot;jump the shark&amp;quot;, the phrase for the moment when a TV series has gone south, which was popularized by Jon Hein&amp;#39;s &lt;a href="http://www.jumptheshark.com/index.jspa"&gt;website of the same name&lt;/a&gt; sometime around the last turn of the millennium. Hein&amp;#39;s payday came in 2005, when the site was sold to &lt;i&gt;TV Guide&lt;/i&gt;, and since then the phrase, which apparently originated in bull sessions Hein had with his friends back in college, has slipped its leash and entered the mainstream, where it is applied willy-nilly to anyone and anything. (Last week, wild man pundit David Brooks, going far off the reservation of conventional wisdom, opined that, with his tumultuously received speech in Berlin, Barack Obama&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;unity act&amp;quot; had &amp;quot;jumped the shark.&amp;quot;) Variations on &amp;quot;nuke the fridge&amp;quot; have already started turning up in the names of website, such as &lt;a href="http://www.nukedthefridge.com/"&gt;nukedthefridge.com&lt;/a&gt;. One of the fellows who runs one such site told &lt;i&gt;The New York Times&lt;/i&gt;&amp;#39; Noam Cohen that “‘Jump the shark’ is for people over the age of 60, who remember the show.” By contrast, “nuke the fridge” offers a “new, fresh take” on  long-running entertainment phenomena that have entered the sucking stages. For his part, Jon Hein is magnanimous towards these youngsters, though he does point out that it&amp;#39;s been a while since he&amp;#39;s heard anyone use the phrase &amp;quot;jump the couch&amp;quot; (Remember? Tom Cruise on &lt;i&gt;Oprah&lt;/i&gt;? Anyone?), so maybe the people trying to cash in on &amp;quot;nuke the fridge&amp;quot; shouldn&amp;#39;t jump at the chance to buy any yachts on credit. Leaving aside how weird it is that some people apparently feel that their generation will be ill-served if they don&amp;#39;t have their very own snappy three-word on-line phrase for this sort of thing, I suspect that when a replacement for &amp;quot;jump the shark&amp;quot; that will stick does arrive, it won&amp;#39;t be one that sort of replicates the rhythm and idea behind &amp;quot;jump the shark.&amp;quot; One reason that &amp;quot;jump the shark&amp;quot;  caught people&amp;#39;s attention was that it wasn&amp;#39;t obviously engineered to resemble something that people were already saying.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.nerve.com/CS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=113716" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/phil+nugent/default.aspx">phil nugent</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/sex+and+the+city/default.aspx">sex and the city</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/jr_2E00_/default.aspx">jr.</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/robert+downey/default.aspx">robert downey</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/barack+obama/default.aspx">barack obama</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/indiana+joness+and+the+kingdom+of+the+crystal+skull/default.aspx">indiana joness and the kingdom of the crystal skull</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/the+dark+knight+knight/default.aspx">the dark knight knight</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/jump+the+shark/default.aspx">jump the shark</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/jon+hein/default.aspx">jon hein</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/urban+dictionary/default.aspx">urban dictionary</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/nuke+the+fridge/default.aspx">nuke the fridge</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/david+brooks/default.aspx">david brooks</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/noam+cohen/default.aspx">noam cohen</category></item><item><title>Dennis Lim Hammers Out the Evolution of the Fight Scene</title><link>http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/2008/07/30/dennis-lim-beats-out-the-evolution-of-the-fight-scene.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">bd485f5c-a45b-491f-8e52-c79e7f680fc3:113342</guid><dc:creator>Phil Nugent</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=113342</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/2008/07/30/dennis-lim-beats-out-the-evolution-of-the-fight-scene.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NY1lpIf5Jmg&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/NY1lpIf5Jmg&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/object&gt;
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Set off in part by the arguments over &lt;i&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/i&gt;&amp;#39;s action scenes--widely held to be &amp;quot;visually incoherent&amp;quot; even by many of the film&amp;#39;s admirers--Dennis Lim has assembled a  thoughtful and compelling &amp;quot;slide show&amp;quot; charting &lt;a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2196075/"&gt;the evolution of the movie fight scene.&lt;/a&gt; Classic action directors such as Don Siegel and Samuel Fuller used action and space to give their fights a kinetic punch that made audiences sit up and forget to blink, but in recent years directors have come to rely more and more on technological pizzazz to put the viewer in the position of someone right in the action (as in Scorsese&amp;#39;s &lt;i&gt;Raging Bull&lt;/i&gt;) or to violate the laws of gravity, more purposefully in &lt;i&gt;The Matrix.&lt;/i&gt; At their peak, the Wachowskis were able to use stage violent ballets and dissect them even as they unfolded, but more hackish and hollow-headed directors have helped rob movie action of its soul by making scenes that feel so unreal that there&amp;#39;s nothing at stake even when they&amp;#39;re readable. Still, you do occasionally see something like what Lim calls the &amp;quot;show-stopping corridor fight in Korean director Park Chanwook&amp;#39;s &lt;i&gt;Oldboy&lt;/i&gt;,&amp;quot; adding, &amp;quot;to watch this after trying to figure out what&amp;#39;s happening between Batman and the Joker is something like going back to Astaire and Rogers after watching Renee Zellwegger and Richard Gere in &lt;i&gt;Chicago.&lt;/i&gt; Fight scenes play on the spectator&amp;#39;s dual need for illusion and authenticity. And precisely for that reason, great fight scenes, like Park&amp;#39;s one-take wonder, tend to be at once believable and beyond belief. The choreography is intricate and meticulous enough to be convincing, but the scene also calls attention to its artificiality, with sly allusions to the side-scrolling vantage of beat-&amp;#39;em-up video games and the blatant proscenium framing. (To shoot from this &amp;quot;impossible&amp;quot; angle literally required the demolition of the fourth wall.)&amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.nerve.com/CS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=113342" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/phil+nugent/default.aspx">phil nugent</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/don+siegel/default.aspx">don siegel</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/martin+scorsese/default.aspx">martin scorsese</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/raging+bull/default.aspx">raging bull</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/dennis+lim/default.aspx">dennis lim</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/wachowski+brothers/default.aspx">wachowski brothers</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/the+matrix/default.aspx">the matrix</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/samuel+fuller/default.aspx">samuel fuller</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/oldboy/default.aspx">oldboy</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/park+chanwook/default.aspx">park chanwook</category><category domain="http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/tags/the+dark+knight+knight/default.aspx">the dark knight knight</category></item></channel></rss>