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My boyfriend went back to his ex, then came back to me. How can I ever trust him again?
By Cait Robinson
Have a question? Email missinfo@nerve.com. Letters may be edited for length, content, and clarity.
Dear Miss Information,
I am dating a wonderful man. We had a rocky start. The first few months we started seeing each other, he was still very emotionally attached to his ex-wife. I knew it was silly to get involved with him while he wasn't completely over her, but the heart and the groin are not always good at taking directions. Anyway, he broke up with me after a few months in an attempt to get back with his ex-wife when he heard that she was planning on getting re-married. The breakup lasted about a month. He seemed to immediately regret it. At the time, we worked together, and I saw him slowly register that what we had was fantastic and that their problems still existed. The ex-wife, in the meantime, dropped her fiancé, and they got back together. Within a week of breaking up with me, he started telling mutual friends that he felt that he made a huge mistake but now felt stuck. To say I was heartbroken is a complete understatement. He ended up breaking things off with her and finally moving the rest of his belongings out of their shared storage shed and completely cutting off all communication. He came back to me, and after hours and hours of talking to make it work, we made it work.
It has been a year. He has been amazingly loving, devoted, open, and all of the other things he was not when he was still attached to his ex-wife. I should be happy, but I am still so cripplingly insecure. I am jealous around other women, I fear extremely ridiculous and implausible scenarios (like, fearing that he has prostitutes over to his house when his roommate is away — really crazy shit) and I just cannot trust him. He didn't cheat on me with the ex, but it felt that way. How do I get over the jealousy and insecurity? I am gunning for some concrete solutions, not just "love yourself" or "have a talk with him." We've talked to death. I am normally quite confident, but this relationship knocked me over. I want to be with him and he wants to be with me. Can you give me a mantra or something to get over this jealousy and insecurity? It is making us both miserable.
— Lost Baggage
Dear Lost Baggage,
You don't want me to tell you to "love yourself?" Oh man, I'd like to think I'm better than that. Besides, I don't think you need much help in that department: you seem pretty grounded, and your sense of self seems fine. I guess I'll have to save "braid flowers into your hair and commune with the Moon Goddess" for someone else.
Though a year is a long time to live with this "crazy shit," the lack of trust you feel is completely understandable. Still having trouble owning your discomfort? Here's what I see going on.
1. Your boyfriend did act hurtfully — he just didn't "cheat," meaning that he filed all the necessary paperwork before he got back with his ex. Of course, that notary stamp doesn't make the breach of trust any less painful for you.
2. When you first started dating, your boyfriend was clearly an emotional mess. Which is fine; he's human, it happens. However — and let's bold this — just because someone is in a really bad emotional/mental place, doesn't mean their actions somehow "don't count." He can't write off his hurtful behavior as being a consequence of his pain. Now you're stuck trying to reconcile the sins of the "wounded" boyfriend who hurt you against the "wonderful" boyfriend you're with now. They both inhabit the same body.
So, Lost Baggage, what to do? Have you considered loving yourself? Talking it out? (Ho ho ho, I'm hilarious.) Start by re-framing this issue. It's not you irrationally being upset about this thing that happened forever ago. It's a legitimate trauma that your relationship survived, and will take both of you to work through. So let the self-criticism go; though your thoughts are crazy and aggravating, directing annoyance inward isn't helpful. Let's channel that rage into something more constructive.
First, think in concrete, brass-tack terms. What are your biggest sore spots? Work to confront these things head-on, rather than shrinking from them and licking your wounds. If you're feeling jealous of a hot girl he's talking to, for instance, get him to introduce you: nine times out of ten, another woman becomes less threatening if you get to know her. If his roommate is going out of town, don't give the hookers enough time to get in the hot tub: propose a date night, or have him cook dinner for you to prove no one's hiding in the closets. Work on demystifying whatever you're afraid of, and you'll find that your fears shrink. It will likely feel clunky and awkward at first, even just admitting the depth of these insecurities. It's going to take both of you to dig out of this trust-foxhole.
If he truly is as supportive and blameless as you say, and your thoughts are the biggest barrier to your happiness, there are healthy ways to reclaim your own mind. It could be something that takes your mind off of your relationship and gives you a new skill, like taking an art class. It could be trying to retrain your negative thoughts through something like meditation or yoga. It could be therapy, either by yourself or as a couple. Anything that pulls you out of your current mental framework would likely do wonders for you.
Along these lines, devote some real thought to what, specifically, is bugging you. Did his cheating-non-cheating trigger something bigger in you? It's pretty amazing how painful experiences have a tendency to link up and form meta-painful experiences that grow multiple heads and hijack your thoughts. If you're battling not just this recent episode, but rather an insecurity Hydra, you should figure that out and arm yourself accordingly.
I wish I had easier tips for you, like "Try holding hands and crying," or "Get one of those monkey-backpack leashes that lame people put on their toddlers," but I don't. It's going to take some pretty intensive work on both of your parts: he'll need to own his hurtful behavior and be aware that triggers may still exist, and you'll need to work to punch holes in your fears. I wish you luck. And if these solutions still don't seem concrete enough, have you considered trust falls? A ropes course? I'm happy to refer you to my sixth-grade gym coach if you have further questions.
Dear Miss Info,
I'm a nineteen-year-old college freshman, and lately I've been fixated on a guy I had a mini "fling" with — meaning a hot and steamy makeout session. He's the guy all the girls say they'd shag if they had a chance, and although I was interested, I didn't think he'd ever flash a look my way. He hit on me pretty hard, and we ended up making out in his bed. Constant invitations to parties continued and I ignored them, thinking I was a one-night fling and he'd never come back for more. I was wrong; he persisted, and it worked. I finally gave in, and boom, steamy and passionate make-out session number two ensued.
College is a time where young adults have their most pleasant sexual experiences, but I wanted this one to seem real and turn into true love. How girly of me. I'm beginning to think that all I am is a makeout buddy and nothing more. How can I handle this? And how do I keep myself from falling for a boy's silly line ever again?
— New to This
Dear New to This,
Oh, it's soapbox time! First: "How girly of you" to want a real connection with another human being? Okay, yes: for some reason honest emotional sharing has gotten cast as the realm of the female, and my feminist/egalitarian heart breaks. Because in that context, "girly" is synonymous with "naïve" or "silly," when really, that desire is a fundamental human trait. And to call the yearning for a deep relationship "girly" is also unfair to men, many of whom want just the same thing, but are conditioned to feel that voicing those impulses is, well, girly. I'm not coming down on you, New to This, I'm coming down on all of us. Can we let go of this shared sense of girls clawing for intimacy and boys pounding beers to numb the feelings? It's not doing any of us any favors.
But okay, to your question. Are you concerned about being used? It seems like you're the one setting up roadblocks here, not him. If you think you're falling into too-casual territory, ask him about it. Keep it as coy banter: "Hey, are you going to take me out properly one of these nights?" If he sputters or gets noncommital, move on. If he's excited and into it, then skip off into the sunset. Again, remember: boys are emotional beings too, no matter how sparkling their eyes or high their cheekbones.
You're right to be cynical, though, and good for you for keeping your bullshit-detector sharp. Just don't take that cynicism so far that it hardens into a shell around you. This dude may be a worthy contender, or he may not — but you won't find out until you give him a chance either to prove himself or to fall flat.
P.S.: "College is a time where young adults have their most pleasant sexual experiences"? I'm sorry, I seem to have just choked on my sixth beer. Which I am drinking specifically to drown out the memories of my college sexual experiences. Don't put too much weight on sex, sister. Skip class, say pretentious things you'll come to regret, and make awesome friends. The rest will fall into place.







Commentarium (35 Comments)
"say pretentious things you'll come to regret"
This is pretty much all I've done at college! It seems to work in all my english classes at least
"Say pretentious things you'll come to regret"? I've made a whole career on saying pretentious things, and never come to regret any of it!
I've never said anything I've regretted saying. Actions, now that would be a different story altogether.
"Skip class, say pretentious things you'll come to regret, and make awesome friends. The rest will fall into place."
Best way to go about college as i am up at 3:08 studying for finals
"Work" at the relationship? One "works" at work, the stuff you have to be bribed to do by being paid. Love is not work. Pick up a copy of "Against Love," memorize it, and call me in the morning.
@AlanK
When it's your personality flaws that are causing the problems in the relationship you'd like to keep, then yeah, you do the work.
Relationships do involve work. Especially long-term commitment stuff. Earlier, I used to change women every 3 to 18 months. No work at all.
Hey Lost Baggage, get your ass to therapy. I am a dude, I have the same problem, and the only thing that helped was finding someone I trusted (and could afford) to hash it out.
Miss Information, I dig what you say, but you need to edit more. The question to answer ratio is a little lopsided.
jrb, i hear ya... miss info needs to cut down both the letters and the answers; all are way too wordy.
For Lost Baggage: I have a friend who is in the exact same situation as you, and it's worked out fine for them. I think Miss I is on to something, but I'd phrase it more directly. His hurtful behavior was not a breach of trust. He was honest with you throughout, and that should count for a whole lot. He's never given you any reason to fear that he is lying to you, so the stuff about hookers or running around behind your back is truly irrational and unjustifiable. The hurt you are feeling is abandonment, not deception. You have to remember that there is *always* risk of abandonment, whether it's this guy or the next, someone you've known for a weekend or for 30 years. You can't have a real relationship without that risk. Once you see that, you can either say, "I will never have a relationship where I connect with someone enough so that if he leaves I would feel hurt," or you can say, "I recognize any connection runs the risk of loss and hurt, but being forever isolated is worse." I chose the latter, and I hope you will, too.
Most realistic answers I've seen yet. I couldn't have put it better myself.
I disagree with cutting down on questions and answers. Both problems and solutions are complicated, sometimes they need lots of words.
Fantastic answers from Miss Info. To New at This: you set the tone. If you act like you can't believe this guy chose you, he'll start to wonder why he chose you. If you keep many vibrant interests and establish some rules about how you want to be treated, I imagine you'll have no problem keeping the relationship going in the right direction. I live in a college town and I always want to lean over in restaurants and tell this to the college girls I hear talking about boy woes. No joke, they detail how their hook up won't call, ignores them, etc, but always ends up calling when he's drunk, so that must mean something, riiiight? I want to shake their adorable little bodies until they start respecting themselves. Good luck with it all. Enjoy these years and follow Cait's advice. She's a wise, cute Buddha.
Hey Lost Baggage -- You should join your local roller derby team. It's like violent, endorphin-producing therapy.
Oh, New To This: you can't be both "new to this" and expecting to have "[your] most pleasant sexual experiences." Interestingly, sex has a learning curve (just like everything else), and if I had decided that the (crappy, rare, boring) sex that I had in college was going to be the best I'd ever have, I think I would have been so depressed that I would have just started collecting cats and stopped washing my hair at the ripe old age of 22. Instead, I like to think I've learned a thing or two during all those post-college fucks, in addition to having way more fun with it than sex was when I had no idea what I was doing.
Hey Elle, I second that! You'll be too busy to worry, and your ass will be so hot that he'd turn the hookers away at the door.
I like the new Miss Info, but this was probably the most boring Miss Info column ever. I could have gotten all this advice from a Readers Digest. That's not why I read Nerve (and why I avoid Dear Abby or Ann Landers...or are they dead. I can't remember...because they're boring and I don't care).
thanks namely and claire, unfortunatly i never got the chance..weird how we both ignore each other..feels like we've had an akward one night stand? lol the dude turned out to be a real douche, hes not ready for a relationship and i doubt he'll be anytime soooon
Lost Baggage may want to give this book a read: If This Is Love, Why Do I Feel So Insecure? (sorry for not linking to the book; however, it's an easy find on Amazon). I'll be honest, I haven't read it. A close-friend-slash-coworker who's now just merely a coworker suffered with the same kind of doubts, fears, and mistrust. She said reading this book helped her a lot, in that it led her to focus on her attachment/fear of abandonment issues. Because really? The problem probably stems from something much more significant than the situation that set the present feelings and concerns into motion.
Great questions, great answers. Thanks for the dose of reality.
if some one went back to there ex and i found out she wouldint be comming or cumming with me any more
Hey Lost Baggage, that sounds like a trauma reaction to me; if you do some therapy about it I would guess you will find some old issues under there that trigger the irrationality. It's not just about this relationship; even if you breakup, the issue will still be there. Dig in, you can get through it--I did.
"College is a time where young adults have their most pleasant sexual experiences" made me LOL as well. As a current senior with only a few months to go... I really, really hope not.
For Lost Baggage: Happiness results more from wanting what you have than getting what you want. Fundamentally, you have to answer the question, do you want this dude. You are not going to police or control him into being what you want. You know that, and it's what's freaking you out. See if you can write down what you want in a simple, declarative sentence, like so: "I want someone who would never hurt me" (not him). "I want someone who is never indecisive" (not him). "I want someone who would never put his needs before mine" (not him). "I want someone who will be good to me" (maybe him). "I want someone who takes good care of me in bed" (maybe him). "I want someone that I won't catch with a hot-tub full of hookers and a donkey" (maybe him too, unless you ever have).
After you have done some of these, put a line through the ones you think are unrealistic. What do you have left? Are you in the right place, or not?
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i need some advice on a cheating problem please. me and my boyfriend have been dating for a year. about a week ago when i was felling suspicious after i found out he messaged one of his exes on fb .i basically threatned him to own up to anything else because i had a feeling there was more. he told me he had hung out with a girl while we were dating.but i still though there was more so i told him i would message her on fb if he didnt fess up . he then told me they had sex right before we dated. i was still felling suspicous so i messaged her and she reponded by telling me they talked and had sex once more the first 4 week of our relationship. after that i was telling him iw ould break up with him if he didnt own up to everything else . he then told me he tried cheating twice more and that he was tetxing other girls the first 3 months of our relationshp. and he lied about a bunch of stupid stuff . since then he admitted everything to his mom because i told him to . i also broke up with him but he has been begging me back saying he has changed. i kind of believe him but then again i dont because he lied to me for a whole year... should i atke him back ? could he have learned from his mistake ?
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