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Dear Miss Information,
I have an ex-boyfriend whom I still sleep with, see frequently, and generally act boyfriend-girlfriend with. However, we are totally incompatible in fundamental ways, so we don't want to get back together. Meanwhile, I have gone on a couple dates with an awesome guy, and hopefully I'll see more of him. We have not slept together. While I know that exclusivity should never be assumed in the beginning of a relationship, at what point does it become sleazy that I'm still seeing my ex? When we have "the exclusivity talk" seems a little late to me. Should it just be when I "get the feeling" that we are headed towards coupledom? — I Like Them Both
Dear I Like Them Both,
It becomes sleazy when it feels sleazy, which, judging by your letter, should be any day now. It's totally permissible to see an old fuck buddy in the very early stages of dating. You haven't talked about exclusivity. You haven't been sexually active (with this new guy, anyway). No deep, soul-baring conversations have taken place in the library of a fictional high school.
Once you engage in any of the above, then yeah, you need to sit this guy down and have a talk. Determine what the boundaries of your relationship (or non-relationship) are, and whether you need to stop doing what you're doing. I'm not advocating for a big, "Tell me everything you feel about me right now and whether or not we're going to wind up sharing a last name" style inquisition. You can ask something open-ended or make a general observation and see where the conversation takes you.
In my experience, waiting until you "get the feeling" isn't the greatest approach. You've got two people, with two different sets of experiences and expectations. You can't just leave it to chance and hope no one's feelings get hurt and that everything works itself out. You've got to talk about it. A little, anyway. I wouldn't go volunteering that you're still sleeping with this fellow. If it turns out Mr. New Date does indeed want to be more serious, you can always immediately stop fucking the ex once you know. If it turns out Mr. New Date is still dating other people, you can keep your arrangement with your ex, only with twenty-four percent less guilt. (And condoms. Condoms, condoms, condoms for all involved.)
One last thought before I go. While I trust you'll do the right thing when the time comes with your ex, I am worried about the acting "boyfriend-girlfriend" part. Are you really going to be able to detach yourself from your ex when the time comes? Do you truly want to? If so, you better start practicing now. Your energy should go towards new opportunities, not old ones that have already shown they won't work out.
Dear Miss Information,
How long after breaking up does one change their Facebook relationship status? Two hours after the break up (I broke up with him) I took down the "In a relationship" part. The next morning I added single. It's only been a day, but his still says "In a relationship." How much time do I give him before I write him an email? Or should I just let it be? — Annoyed But Wanting to Be Sympathetic
Dear Annoyed,
Why did you break up with him? Did he cheat on you? Burn your house down? Buy a small passenger plane with your credit card? If so, then fuck his feelings. Do whatever you want, when you want, and worry about etiquette later. Otherwise, slow your ass down. It's been a day. One day. There are people who don't even check their Facebook regularly, just as there are people who don't Twitter and haven't seen Avatar.
There are many good reasons to announce your new singlehood on your social networking profile. If the breakup was a long time coming, it makes it feel more "official" and that can be very cathartic. You also usually get a big wave of sympathy kudos. Finally, there's the obvious benefit, which is advertising your availability to potential suitors. Hanging the sign in front of the company store: GRAND REOPENING! FREE REBOUND SEX TO THE FIRST FIFTEEN CUSTOMERS! Knowing that you'll get at least a few flirty emails is good for the ego.
Unfortunately, there are other people's feelings to think about. Your ex-boyfriend no doubt feels terrible right now and getting such a clear and obvious sign that you're moving on is going to enhance that even further. His thoughts will naturally go where mine went and wonder if you're already on the lookout for new prospects. That may be true, but the poor guy shouldn't have to know.
My recommendation for this and all other social networks is to, wherever possible, keep your relationship status hidden. Send private messages to those you want to know about the breakup, including anybody you've got your eye on. How long you leave it hidden depends on the length of the relationship and how he's taking the split. Is he posting status updates with lyrics from Jeff Buckley? Then might want to leave it up there a while longer.
As far as his status, that's none of your concern. He could leave it up for the next five years and it wouldn't matter. You still won't be together. If he continues with the standoff, he's the one — not you — who's going to wind up looking like the loser.
Patience is the key word here. That, and remembering that it's just some stupid website that you won't remember a decade from now when no one uses the Internet anymore because all of our brains have been migrated over onto one gigantic Google server. We're talking Twilight Zone shit, Annoyed. Are you ready for it?
Readers, how long do you wait before doing the ol' changing o' the profile? Anyone have a particularly gruesome status update story?







Commentarium (37 Comments)
For the questionably sleazy lady, when one can smell the other's cock on your breath... you should let him/them know.
Hey Facebook Lady, I would think the proper, most healthy, invigorating behaviour would be to get an actual life. I.e. forget about status updates and other b.s. Get outside and smell the fresh air.
Nice reference to Jeff Buckley. Here's what I would post: "Maybe I'm just too young to keep good love from going wrong."
Maybe he's hurt from the breakup and avoiding changing his status because he doesn't want to deal with an influx of nosy people all asking "What happened?" I waited a month to change my status after the last breakup just to avoid having to talk about it before I was ready.
Annoyed: Your ex-boyfriend's Facebook status is none of your business. Period.
"I like them both" risks losing the new bf if she is too close to the ex and the new bf finds out. He will assume the worse and drop her fast.
For all you know, he's already "In a relationship" again. You can't control what other people do with their web pages. Just deal with your own. Now, if you have an ulterior motive because there's some hot friend of his that you'd like to have informed of your relationship status, well, you probably shouldn't, but there are more direct ways to do that.
Really sweet, Miss Information. You're a super lady.
@Both: Please, please, please pay utmost attention to Miss Info's last paragraph, and make sure you are emotionally over your ex BEFORE things get serious with the new guy. I hate being expected to be "cool" about the fact that the person I'm seeing still isn't over the ex; it's happened to me too many times and it introduces all kinds of insecurities into the new relationship, especially if/when I find out that the person was still sleeping with the ex when we got together. Definitely there's no expectation of exclusivity right off the bat, but Miss Info is spot on when she tells you to emotionally disengage before you move forward with the new guy.
Maybe Annoyed's ex was two-timing her (or him)?
I found out that my year-and-a-half-plus relationship was over when my ex changed his status to "Single". That was fun.
wft!??!
My boyfriend of a year and half broke up with me and not much more than 24 hours later, he removed his relationship status. It was like a hard punch to the gut. I understand wanting closure for yourself, but there really should be some kind of consideration for the other person.. Facebook really is the devil.
RE: letter #1, the best policy is always to stop fucking other people when you've had one date with someone who might be a potential love. If you can't keep it in your pants til at least next week or whenever you go out with the new person again, it's either a sign that you are not serious about the new person, or that you don't deserve to be in any relationship. Wonderful way to start life with a new love: oh by the way, after we started dating I fucked my ex a few times -- but that was before we were "exclusive"! Do you think that doesn't count? That it doesn't hurt your new love, even after time has passed? Selfish. Short-sighted. Unromantic.
RE: letter #2: Yes, your ex's FB status -- like everything else about him -- is none of your business. But how many breakups "take" the first time around? Not many. Even the messiest, most seemingly clear-cut disasters and betrayals usually require Round Two before they have a chance at being final. If (s)he is changing that status right away, it means (s)he has been cheating on you and couldn't wait for something official, or is an adolescent who's trying to score points against you. I'd say either way you made the right call. Go get that new life you're after -- and don't fuck your ex after you hook up with a new person (see above)!
I generally change my status the next time I get on FaceBook or whatever site it may be, though I also defriend them.
definitely keep the relationship status hidden. it's no one's business, and my close friends know what's up
To the facebook status letter writer. Grow up. Using a networking site to communicate important and sensitive information like that is crass and immature. Personally it annoys me that facebook even includes that as part of your general status. It's totally irrelevant. I put nothing, and those who need to know know where I'm at relationship-wise. Who knows what happened between her and the ex, but he will know she has changed her status and maybe how quickly and she's sticking the finger to him. Childish...
The first letter writer is an idiot. Is she unable to go wihout sex for a few weeks? Close the old down before beginning the new. It's respectful and gives you the best chance of giving your full attention to something with real potential. Whether you have a right to or not, sleeping with someone at the same time as dating someone else is greedy, and off-putting.
i don't Twitter and i haven't seen Avatar....
Me either.
Nope, neither.
Why do people say things like "I have an ex-boyfriend whom I still sleep with, see frequently, and generally act boyfriend-girlfriend with" and still say they're even broken up? Does "broken up" mean nothing anymore? Maybe you're no longer making plans for the future, but it sounds like you're still pretty wrapped up in the "ex". Are you sure HE'S moved on? Knock it off before you hurt two people.
Maybe he was more ready for the break-up than you think. How do you know that his relationship status refers to YOU??? Maybe he's moved on already. Well, you never know.
That makes three of us.
not to judge, but that facebook letter is the dumbest submission to an advice column i have ever seen.
do you understand that facebook is a website, not the center of the universe....??
If you broke up with him and are so annoyed that he hasn't changed his relationship status ONE day later, why not just go ahead and pull the trigger and un-friend the guy?
@ I like Them Both:
It's one thing to date multiple people at the same time. It's absolutely not acceptable to be sleeping with one or more of them. When you're fucking someone that should be the only one in your life, and if he's not good enough to be the only one then why are you sleeping with him anyway?
When you're new boyfriend finds out that you were fucking someone else while you were dating him, he's going to think you're a cunt. And he's absolutely correct. You are a cunt.
should a girl who talks about marriage still keep in touch with her old fb's?
FB is a pain in the ass. I kind of want to remove my relationship just because I don't feel like it needs to be there, but I don't want all the "OMG what happened?" drama. Um, nothing happened. I grew up and de-friended FB?
Dammit! Where's the "Like" button for the comments by people who said they don't use Twitter??? :)
Like.
doesnt matter
i try not give facebook this much power over my life
Screw "Fakebook". Before you go putting yourself back out on the market think about how the other person is feeling. Every action has ramifications and more often than not that ramification impacts on someone in a negative way.
My girlfriend put her status as single a few hours after breaking up with me. I decided to just delete my entire FB account. That was 5 months ago and I still feel a sweet sense of freedom. I'm still broken up over the girl at times, but I'm glad I don't have to deal with stupid FB anymore.
I took 2 months before I took mine down... before you judge, my ex and I did the same thing... not because we hoped to get back together, but because it was nobody's business but ours. I wasn't about to let everyone comment on my status change just because it showed up on news feed. My friends knew and we knew, so that's all that mattered.
the ex in the first one wasnt as nearly as ex as she claims there... well, not at that time, anyway. the new guy is the current fbw and doesnt want more.
My ex took his "in a relationship" down, changed it to single, and changed his picture a half hour after breaking up. Since then, I've been told that he is constantly posting statuses and mobile pictures. What a loser...
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