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Miss Information
My sex drive is way higher than my girlfriend's, and I don't want to watch porn — what can I do?
By Cait Robinson
Have a question? Email missinfo@nerve.com. Letters may be edited for length, content, and clarity.
Dear Miss Information,
I am currently in a relationship that is more fulfilling than I could have ever imagined. We are very much in love and are proving to be perfect partners. We have a good sex life, but I worry that I may be diluting it. I have always had a very high sex drive, and when I was single or in other relationships, I usually took care of it when the need arose. But now that I am in such an important relationship, I wonder if my instant gratification habit could lead to problems — especially if it leads her to allow for sex, but never be able to initiate, since I am always the one pushing.
We talked about it, and she said that she feels the frequency of my pushing at times leads her to consent whether or not she really feels like it, and that makes it difficult for her to become excited about it. In other words, sex has become a bit one-sided, and after this talk I wanted to make a change.
So I have started making an effort to control my constant urges, but it has led to an increase in time spent with porn. This might not seem like a huge issue, but porn is not how I want to facilitate that need. And I don't want that version of sex — what I see on porn sites — ever to make the jump into our sex lives. By increasing the time spent in front of the computer, member in hand, am I decreasing my appreciation for what we have together and simply masking a larger problem? And to truly be able to control my urges so that our sex life is healthy for both of us, should I cut out the porn entirely and work on increased self-control? If so, how do I go about this when the porn is my current medium for restraint?
— Reform From Porn
Dear Reform from Porn,
First, because I believe in issuing high-fives where high-fives are due, I want to say that it's great you're so sensitive to your girlfriend's experience in your shared sex life. You're absolutely right — as long as she feels like you're constantly horny and she's the gatekeeper of sexual activity, she's going to feel blasé at best and turned-off at worst. So nice work recognizing this and trying to coax her back to a position of power in your relationship. You're on a good track.
I commend you, too, for recognizing the effects porn is having on your relationship and/or mental state. Porn's a tricky thing. It's effective for facilitating the kind of beginning-middle-end trajectory of an easy orgasm, but, in bulk, it can really do a number on your expectations of sex and/or views of humanity. (Two Girls and Four Goats? 140,000 views?! Eesh.) I get that these are not images you want to carry with you, and I give you a lot of credit for taking steps to rectify that.
Unfortunately, breaking these patterns is going to be uncomfortable, just like breaking any other pattern. Think of it like a detox. If you want to reduce your dependence on porn, you can start by making it less available: remove it from your hard drive, stop going to your favorite sites, hide or throw out your DVDs. Give yourself different parameters for self-pleasure: you can jerk off all you want, say, as long as you do it "organically": i.e. based on imagination/memory/fantasy, rather than streaming recordings of strangers fucking. (This has the added benefit of greatly sharpening your imagination skills. I feel like there was a "Blues Clues" song about this, minus the masturbation.) While you're trying to re-train your patterns, consider working out more often. Yeah, yeah, it sounds like brush-off advice, but it's true: sexual energy is still energy, and you've got to burn it off somehow.
Also, I think you can allow for some gray area. Unless you feel like porn is an acute and immediate threat to your relationship, you can work on reducing your dependence on it without having to remove it all in one fell swoop. And you can lighten up on some of the pressure you're putting on yourself. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with occasional porn usage, nor is there anything wrong with your high sex drive. As long as you don't feel like the porn you watch is eating you away from the inside or preventing you from looking your girlfriend in the eye, you can probably find a healthy balance. Just feel it out. Discipline is the goal, not asceticism.
As for your girlfriend, I think you may be surprised what an aphrodisiac the words "it's up to you" are. Once you stop pushing her — and, uh, start spending sixteen hours a day at the gym — a kind of vacuum will form. I would not be at all surprised if she's thrilled by the chance to fill that void.
Dear Miss Information,
Here's my conundrum. I recently met this super-hot, amazing girl. We had an incredible weekend together recently, full of sex and goodness, but, not only does she live several thousand miles away, she also has a boyfriend. Whom she lives with. He knows all about our tryst and is fine with it. So fine, in fact, that she's coming to visit me in a few weeks on his dime. In the meantime, we've been emailing/chatting/texting/writing poems to each other and all types of gooey, romantic stuff that I adore.
I've been quite good at the impractical, long-distance, can't-go-anywhere type of relationship in the past, and I'm wondering if I should nip this in the bud before I really fall in love with her and end up devastating myself. The rational part of me says, "End it, it'll never go anywhere." And the romantic part of me says, "Just roll with it. Honor those feelings! She inspires you, blah de blah."
Is there a healthy way to approach a situation like this? Where I can still see and sleep with her occasionally while safeguarding my heart? I should also mention that I'm seeing other people as well, but she blew them all out of the water. Like I'd rather fantasize about her than date these real, albeit mediocre, people who live here and are single. It's that bad. I can't wait to see her again. Help?
— Seeking Sane
Dear Seeking Sane,
Part of me is saddened by the phrase "where I can still see her and sleep with her while safeguarding my heart." Sex and relationships without any emotion are hollow, sad, and likely fictional. We should all be lucky enough to connect with another human being, no matter how tenuous or dangerous that connection feels. "Better to have loved and lost," etc. But the cynical majority of my brain — and its big boots — stomps the romantic believer, because the sad truth is that you do have to be careful where you invest your energy and affection.
Of course, you're well aware of this. Perhaps the real question is, will you be happy within the constraints of this particular relationship? And there are a lot of constraints. If you need to have your loves be present, accessible, and unfettered by other relationships, then perhaps this particular situation isn't for you. And that's fine. Conversely, if the logistics don't bug you, and if you just like the idea of having her there when you have her, and knowing she exists when you don't, then go for it. That's also fine.
As for the "when you don't have her" part: it's cool that she "blows these other girls [that you're dating] out of the water," but be careful about how much time you're spending on her when she's not around. Does writing her poetry and sending her dried flowers inspire you? Fantastic. Are you skipping your friend's birthday party to stay at home and write her emails? Less fantastic. If you're going to embark on a relationship like this, you need to keep investing energy in yourself and your own social life — including the possibility that a new, local girl will knock your socks off. Just be aware of balancing you-in-this-relationship vs. you-in-your-life.
Give it some thought, be honest with yourself, and, if you're ready, bask in the inspiration and great sex. If it ever starts causing more stress than pleasure, don't be afraid to admit it, close the file, and walk away with your fond memories intact.







Commentarium (32 Comments)
"Seeking Sane" may be friends with a woman who has an imaginary boyfriend to protect her and give her an out when necessary.
Funny, I know a girl like the one who's about to visit Seeking Sane. I wonder if she's the same one. (Does she live in Canada?) Anyway, if she's traveling to sleep with other guys with boyfriend's approval, that means she's officially "polyamorous." Embrace the cause, and you may find that it's OK to be head-over-heels with her and others as well. Don't expect her to be exclusive, even if she left her boyfriend and moved in with you. This is the way she is. Keep telling yourself that, and act accordingly.
RFP: I share your situation in that my wife if the rate-limiting factor in our sex lives and consequently she rarely initiates. The disparity can be hard to deal with, and self-satisfaction or open relationships are pretty much your only option. I go with the former, but I successfully compartmentalize. Porn is porn, it's for some happy-fun "me" time, and it has NOTHING to do with my real sex-life. I quit pressing my wife so much (so she feels less like a drag on me), I blow off a little hormonal excess on my own, and I've never had issues with suddenly desiring goats, midgets, clowns, nuns, ginormous breasts, or groups sex in balanced or imbalanced gender numbers. For me, porn is just a tool to solve a problem and my wife appreciates that it helps to temper our imbalanced sex-drives ... which stay imbalanced despite the time I spend in the gym every week, MF. ;) I wish you the best with your problem, and hope it works out as acceptably as it has for me.
Your wife isn't reading this unfortunately but I heard the solution to the problem of LW1's wife is to do the opposite of what she is doing. She should initiate sex with you all the time. Multiple times per day. Wake you in the middle of the night for sex. It sounds great but after a few days you will be fighting her off with a stick or feigning headaches. Then maybe balance can be established.
This was taught to me by a relationship psychologist/sex therapist who recommends it to his patients.
In regards to RFP: I think the fact you're so concerned and that you want your girlfriend to want it as much as you do is awesome. That said, I think trying to become more self controlled about your libido is not the way to go about it really. Yeah, porn is kind of tasteless at times, but why don't you start looking for more tasteful porn? Mix up said tasteful porn with lewds and nudes of your lady? Even if you don't look at tasteful porn, why do you think that will affect the way you act in bed per se? You're clearly beyond "monkey see, monkey do" if you're so concerned about this. You and your lady have ultimate control over what goes on in your bed. I would get super resentful if I were in your position and I tried to limit the sex I'd have with my theoretical partner AND I tried to eliminate the stuff I use to get off on alone from my life, not to mention I'd be bitchy and end up compensating with some sort of worse habit. Don't over think, dude.
I love MM's advice: Do the opposite. In theory it works both ways--RFP can do the opposite: become the rate limiting factor ("not now dear, I don't feel like it--some other time, ok?"). I've only had the guts to do it once (in 25 years), but it works: watch the wife start going to the gym all the sudden, and strutting in the nude. :-)
I know I am prudish for saying this, but my limited little world perspective cannot grasp the second question. How on earth could you watch your girlfriend have a huge crush on someone else, much less facilitate the process? I have such a wildly different perspective on this that my tiny brain just cannot comprehend it. I have dated a lot of guys, but all in a single file line. Not passing judgment at all, but just marveling how differently the human minds and hearts work.
Caitlin, I really like your perspective and appreciate that you don't have a phony anything goes attitude about all things sex. I like that you have a discernible line between honest sexuality and retaining one's dignity. I think there is a distinction between being open and being open for abuse. That is all. End profusions of love. If we were friends, I would share my best stickers with you when I sent you letters.
RE: Ms. Robinson's letter to "Reform from Porn":
Ms. Robinson suggests that one-sided sacrifices in this relationship can manipulate the power dynamic of this couple's sexual activity--to create a "vacuum" for the partner who has not expressed the same level of desire in the bedroom. This is pretty unconscionable. Ms Robinson misses the seriousness of this couple's problems at best, and at worse prescribes misandry.
If this advice is followed, the author would be making a big sacrifice: he is physically suppressing his biological sexual desires by ceding all control over the frequency of their sexual relationship to his partner. Internet pornography is merely a symptom of that sacrifice. This author is wise enough to recognize that pornography is not a healthy substitute to regular sexual practice, and seems to genuinely prefer keeping his sexual online fastasies separate from his real sexual relationship with his partner. In addition, he then volunteers to unlearn his sexual desires (in this case, internet pornography), opting instead for self control... Ms Robinson simply encourages physical exercise to that end (although I have never read any clinical study that suggests that physical exercise will "burn off" sexual energy anymore than physical labor or fatigue or exhaustion burns it off).
It is deeply regrettable that the author's partner does not desire him as he desires her. I don't presume to know if or how a longterm relationship can be maintained when this happens. But the solution to this couple's imbalance in their natural sexual desires is not to empower one partner by asking the other to exhaust his sex drive at the gym and quit masturbating to porn.
JFA, you do raise a good point: normally I would never advocate someone treating an existing imbalance by sacrificing further. That obviously never works, and only serves to upset the balance further. Of course, you know that. But I don't think I did that here, and saying my advice is tantamount to "misandry"? Ouch, friend.
Here's what I read. RfP has already come to several conclusions about his own relationship, namely: "I am uncomfortable here" and "I don't like porn as a substitute." He's asking how to better regain balance and comfort within this framework.
This relationship is clearly worth it to him, and sex is only one facet of it. I don't think this question is about the sex as much as it is about him valuing another person and his relationship over his own base instincts. I don't think that's misandry at all, and I also don't think I'm overlooking the seriousness of their situation. He doesn't need someone to tell him, "your relationship is broken, dude." He needs someone to tell him, "You're doing great, and keep fumbling til it works."
Hey, Fan, wanna go ride bikes?
Somehow I had a feeling this would culminate in bikes.
To reform from porn - you're missing out on the wonderful, wild, and oh so hot world of erotica. Go pick up some erotica books and read them. Better yet, start writing erotica about all the things you desire and want to do to her. For one thing, it will help you release some of the desires while yet indulging your fantasies, and it might help her get in the mood too. Check out Rachel Kramer Bussel's various anthologies.
For online stuff, I recommend literotica.com, especially the "top stories." They're almost always extremely well written and there are a ton of categories.
dude... find some softcore man. "2 girls and a goat" is NOT the sum total of ways to look at naked ukrainian girls. try bittorrent-ing those old Red Shoe Diaries shows or something... porn that shows women enjoying the kind of sex that actual women actually would enjoy. it's hard to find, but it does exist.
Due to an editing error (by me, specifically), a part of Cait's first answer (the paragraph starting with "Also, I think you can allow for some gray area") was radically abridged. Please see above for the corrected version.
@JFA: I think it's extremely unfair of you to assume that the discrepiency in their libidos is because she doesn't "desire" him the way he "desires" her. Desire usually has nothing to do with it. I've had relationships in which I had the higher libido. I also had a relationship in which I was the partner with the lower libido, and it's not a fun place to be. It wasn't because I didn't desire him--if that was the case, we wouldn't have been together. I was stressed out a lot of the time, I was exhauseted, and it took a significant toll on my sex drive. Sex is an emotion give and take, and when you feel like you have nothing left to offer emotionally, you have to conserve everything you can. For me, that meant not having sex as often as I would've liked.
Everyone's libido is different--and it's not determined by clear-cut lines or gender. It belittles these two people and their relationship for you to assume she simply doesn't "desire" him.
*discrepancy
Is it worrying that my first thought when i saw the tagline to this article was the chorus of Micheal Jackson's 'Beat It'?
I hate to recommend games .... but I have a higher sex drive than my boyfriend and sometimes it makes me feel like he's just humoring me and doesn't want it like I want it. Crappy feeling. I just stop initiating for awhile, tend to my own needs, and wait for him to set the pace. Without fail, within a few weeks he's like "we haven't had sex in forever!" and it is a love fest. Maybe feel her out to see what is a good amount for her, ramp it up for you and find a compromise. Good luck.
To Reform from Porn - in the words of another sex columnist, Dan Savage, you may have to DTMFA. Your sex drive is incompatible with your partner. This will only lead to resentment, and/or cheating. One solution might be to suggest an open relationship, if she's open to that. Otherwise, I would suggest bailing out on this one. Sex is a major component of any relationship, and if you two aren't on the same page, you will have problems down the road.
I think any woman hot enough to get her live-in boyfriend to finance a trip to see her newly-found fuck friend is ALWAYS going to blow the local girls out of the water. Reading this letter is like watching a guy wonder why a Victoria's Secret model won't commit. Of course VS models are people too with real feelings, but they have SO many options. Sane, she probably isn't going to pick you in the end. (Unless of course you're an Abercrombie model, but then somehow I don't think you would have found yourself in this position.)
@Anonymous: I think that Dan Savage would also say that sex drives vary a lot over the course of a long-term relationship. If you want to be monogamous, porn can help fill in the gaps, and does so successfully for many people. I'm starting to tire of everyone immediately calling 'open relationship' every time people have different levels of frequency desire...it discounts the fact that many people would rather do without (within reason) than deal with the complications of polyamory.
Skip her! If she comes back to you she is yours foreever.
for one while she is trying you have to be in it to win it both minds together saying to her how much you love Eating her (i) CLIT as you do that reach up and rub her breast let her shoot the cum into your mouth then start upward meaning slowly move up kissing her belly licking her nipples sucking on her boobs say to her how much you would love to keep making love and her system will respond ONE THING PUT THE LAP TOP AWAY 100% if not 1000% always on the one who you are with
I thought the advice was a bit Victorian....like many of the commenters have said the sex drive issue is a two way street....he would appear to be trying to address his side of things but she needs to meet him in the middle and increase hers....sex does not always have to be penetration.....this couple could do loads of other things from quickies, oral and masturbation....why does she not watch him masturbate while he watches porn or watches her...no effort needed! I realize Ms. Robinson is new to this but think outside the box (pun intended) and look at these questions from different angles and perspectives.....otherwise it just becomes another run of the mill advice column and not a sex positive one that the site intends to be in every other facet.....not hatin, just relatin...
@cjt, I think you make some good points, but it is quite refreshing to have a sex column where the answer isn't always "grab some lube and whipped cream!" and tries to offer a real answer to the problem. I think Cait probably intuits that different answers serve different people. I thought the response given was appropriate to the question. Not knocking your response, just offering one of those different perspectives.
CJT, I appreciate your well-reasoned critique. I do think you make some good points. I have a hard time prescribing, "tell her to suck it up and meet him halfway," though; anyone who's been in that position knows what a minefield it can be. There *is* some degree of "fake it til you make it" involved (i.e. maybe if they fool around, she'll get into it!), but there's also the danger of that advice turning ACTUALLY Victorian, i.e. "let thy man heave himself upon thee, and worry not about thine own desires!" Anyone who's had the experience of counting ceiling tiles and listening to the clock tick in the middle of sex knows how damaging this can be to a relationship.
I tried to tell RfP ways to lessen his own discomfort, since that's all he has control over in this situation. And because that's what he asked about. But I do agree with you that, ideally, it should be a two-way street: if they can work together to turn her on, all the better. Thanks for weighing in.
there's a difference between "sex-positive" and "selling the sizzle". most female sex columnists are freelance wannabes desperately trying to establish a "brand" for themselves and their multiple writing and/or performing ventures. The perception of sexual availability implied by writing about the far end of the sexual bell curve like they're down with it is an easy brand to sell. cait really doesn't strike me that way and I like it, she's actually interesting to read instead of just funny/mortifying.
Lezley! So sweet of you to say. You should totally come to my One-Wymyn Show: Sucking Dick for Drink Tickets or: How I Learned To Suppress My Gag Reflex and Love Making Out With Girls for Male Attention. I'll save you a seat!
sounds temporarily empowering! I'll be the one in the Suckdog tshirt!
RFP is falling prey to the "Coolidge Effect". In most species of mammal studied, males will demonstrate a strong libido as long as fresh, receptive partners continue to be introduced. In RFP's case, the "fresh, receptive partners" are just imaginary. As long as he finds new barbie dolls with their asses in the air being penetrated and going "oh ahhhh oh ahhhhh" to look at, the effect will persist.
Turn off the porn, RFP. Limit yourself to one sexually receptive female. Your libido will subside to a level that she can handle soon enough. Maybe even sooner than you'd like. If you ever find that it has gone too low, at least now you know how to get it back.