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Sex Advice From Rabbis
Q: "What's the best piece of relationship advice from the Torah?" A: "Don't read it."
By Amanda Green
Rabbi Marci Bellows, 33
Some people don't realize that rabbis can get married. What's your relationship status?
I'm single, and I do date. But it's challenging to find someone who can see me in a three-dimensional way and who's not intimidated by the fact that I'm a rabbi.
Have you ever seen a man go from interested to uninterested as soon as he hears the r-word?
Yes! I actually did this experiment on JDate where I put down that I was a rabbi. I wanted to see if anyone contacted me. Only one guy did — he was asking for rabbinic advice. But I was like, "I don't want to be your rabbi. I want a boyfriend." Then I did an experiment where I changed "rabbi" to "Jewish educator," which is technically accurate. I got contacted, but in the chatting or emails, I'd mention I'm a rabbi. Things would pretty much stop there.
But you've got a lot of great "unrabbi-ish" qualities and interests.
Right. I do improv comedy, where I'm silly and obscene. Some of my congregants and I went to see Lady Gaga. We dressed up and sprayed our hair different colors and everything. I'm a recovering karaoke addict.
What qualities does a man need to be with a female rabbi?
I think it takes a confident man who's comfortable with himself to date any strong woman, whether she's a lawyer or a rabbi or whatever. I didn't know this would be an issue when I become a rabbi. I think male rabbis might have it easier, because it's more socially acceptable for men to have positions of power. I started rabbinical school engaged, but then that broke up because he didn't want to be with a rabbi. Then I was in a four-year relationship throughout rabbinical school, but the same thing happened.
Beyond the gender issue, it does take a special person to date a religious leader.
Right. I need someone who's comfortable working the room and making small talk during services and who doesn't feel threatened by my work. People also assume they have to be super-Jews, but that's not the case. I don't need to be with someone who's particularly observant.
What if you found the perfect guy for you, and he was Christian?
For our seminary in the Reform movement, you have to promise to marry someone Jewish. But I'd hope that if I found the perfect person who wasn't Jewish, he'd be willing to convert. Judaism is such an important part of my life that I'd want him to be part of that.
What do you think is the best piece of relationship advice from the Torah?
The first commandment is the Torah is "Be fruitful and multiply." We should be having sex. Never mind the fact that sex is pleasurable, and we're not supposed to be an ascetic people — it's okay to enjoy life. My most favorite teaching is the idea that everyone's made in the image of God. There's something divine and unique about each person, and that should translate into love, caring, and reciprocity.
My boyfriend's Jewish, and I'm a gentile. I'm not particularly religious, but he says he wants to have a Jewish family with a Jewish woman. We love each other and aren't thinking about marriage at this point, but are we wasting each other's time?
Some of the most dedicated families in my synagogue are interfaith families. Sometimes the non-Jewish partner converts or sometimes the couple just agrees to raise the children Jewish. You should talk about the religious aspect. If you do end up getting married and having kids, I'd just encourage raising children in one religion. Trying to do both is complicated. A lot of kids feel conflicted. They feel they have to choose between their parents, not just between religions.
My girlfriend says her mom is her best friend and tells her super-intimate details about our relationship. I've asked my girlfriend not to share so much — especially after her mom has brought certain issues up with me — but she says this is just the way things are. How should I deal with my girlfriend's meddling mom?
The girlfriend needs to see that she and the boyfriend are the new nucleus, even if they're not married. If the boyfriend isn't comfortable with what the girlfriend tells her mom, she needs to meet him halfway. There are things that need to be just between the two of them. Otherwise, he'll start censoring himself or closing himself off.
I'm a gay man. I've had strong feelings for a guy at my workplace for awhile. We flirt and get along great, but he has a boyfriend. Lately, he's begun confiding in me that the relationship isn't working out so well. What should I do?
As long as you're not encouraging the coworker to cheat on his current partner, I think there's nothing wrong with building that friendship. You can reach out without an ulterior motive to let your co-worker know you care. If there are sparks that are meant to develop, then the other relationship will run its course. But don't force it, since you don't want to be the other man, or know that your relationship started that way.
I love everything about the man I'm dating except having sex with him. We're just not that sexually compatible. We've been together a long time, but I know I've had better sex with other partners. Is this a dealbreaker?
I would hope not. Sex is a very important part of a relationship, but so much more goes into a successful, loving partnership, like caring, support, and devotion. If there's a technique issue, that can be worked on. If there's a chemistry issue, that's a little more complicated. But I'd hope that a person recognizes all the other things a partner brings and that two people who are otherwise happy with each other would see a therapist and work on their sexual relationship.







Commentarium (55 Comments)
I would love to join Rabbi Marci's congregation. She has great advice and seems like a deeply thoughtful person, as a rabbi should be
Thanks! So nice of you to say - you're always invited :)
Rabbi Barr won me over with his answer to the Jewish-guy-will-only-marry-Jewish-woman-but-talking-marriage-with-gentile-girlfriend question. Love the no bullshit advice!
+1
wow.....rabbi advice = win
For sure.
Rabbits give excellent advice. What did you expect?
What kind of rabbi says don't read the Torah? For fuck's sake, without the book, Jews would just be gentiles with slight genetic propensities for curly hair.
I think he meant don't read it for sex/relationship advice. At least that's how I interpreted his response.
He said don't read it FOR RELATIONSHIP ADVICE. And honestly, that was the best answer of the whole piece.
I'd imagine the rabbi who recognizes that spiritual and cultural well-being might come from a different source than relationship/sexual well-being.
Jewish culture > important then the damn torah
The best things that came of my religion has been created by secular artists.
Also thanks to read clearly. It WAS the best answer in this whole article.
Also loved his answer about the mixed couple's situation. Why bother swimming in the shiksa pool, just to 'have fun' before you settle for a Jewish girl?
Any Jew who can't read the Torah to find some wisdom that applies to their current situation get their foreskins back. The whole point of talmudic study and is to argue with G-d's law and get your own way.
You can't really apply the Torah to your own life the way you can with the Qur'an, and it (thank Shechina) isn't as overtly didactic as parables. I think you get more out of say, the Midrashim, or more of our cultural writings. Hell, I got more real-world "advice" out of the Zohar and Maimonides than the straight-up Torah. The male rabbi's response was overly glib, but really true. It's good to look at to say "this is where we came from" but if you take it as the be-all-and-end-all of the faith, then you're no better than a dogmatic redneck Christian. We are Jews, and therefore somewhat smarter than that.
Way to support the stereotype that Jews are thoughtful, insightful, and humorous!
Moops, you're so right! These rabbis were some of my favorite interview subjects ever.
Haha, agreed.
Agreed!
Definitely have been waiting for this one. Worth the wait, they were fantastic.
Imams next!
Good idea.
All faith leaders should be included! That would make for very interesting and insightful columns.
Be patient! Others will come!
Really? Imams are fine, but I honestly would rather NOT hear sex advice from some conservative catholic priest.
Besides, what is wrong with having a article with JUST rabbis!? I do not mean to play the "J" card here, but I kinda smell some subtle anti-semetism....
Can we do Buddhist priests too? I was raised Buddhist and it worked out pretty well for me.
this isn't a religious site, and yeah, these are very open-minded rabbis. not all rabbis would be. I don't want sex advice from a priest, but I do love this piece.
I wonder what an Orthodox rabbi would say...
"sexy sexy ankles.
never show them."
Sounds like all the sexually-repressed Christians and sexually-abused Catholics should head for their nearest synagogue, where thecongregants celebrate life, love and respect for everybody.
That's probably sarcastic, but basically I'd recommend it. Despite our occasional forays into being consumerist toolbags, most non-orthodox Jews don't slut-shame, judge, or preach, which I love.
I like Rabbi Barr! His answer to the gentile dating the Jew who has to marry a Jew was especially good. Not everyone dates to marry, but clearly the couple in question has discussed it, and the girl has found out that she merely represents youthful experimentation for him, which should piss her off.
Christian hating! Yay! It solves all problems and doesn't look hypocritical at all!
huh? wha... the only thing that sorta would count would be Kel's comment, but other than that, the interviews and other comments so far contain no Christian bashing. spell out the hypocrisy for me because I don't see it...
Clearly @michele went to a Bachmann/Palin double feature and missed this actual article.
Or she might have been responding to your previous comment: "you're no better than a dogmatic redneck Christian. We are Jews, and therefore somewhat smarter than that."
That said, I really enjoyed the rabbis comments, especially from one and three. But that preference is only because my cousin's wife is a rabbi and I appreciate the insight when it comes to what their courtship must've been like (we don't get into that level of detail because of our age gap). All of their answers were insightful and delightful.
michele posted her comment before Varlotte made all of hers
I'm Riiiiight.
So am I!
What a nice trio! It's hard for me to imagine why anyone on JDate would be put off by the idea of dating a rabbi -- especially the two single women in this piece, who are both attractive and seem quite intelligent and level-headed (I omit Rabbi Barr because he's married, but he seems like a cool guy).
(I say "anyone on JDate", BTW, because this agnostic Gentile could never convert with sincerity. I wouldn't hesitate to marry a practicing Reform Jew, though having kids could bring up some complicated issues.)
Maybe there's an assumption that dating a rabbi would have to be "heavy", i.e. marriage-minded, from the get-go? Or that premarital sex would be off the table? Anyway, it's hard for me to reconcile the apparent dating difficulties that smart/strong women have, vs. the fact that just about every single male friend I have is looking for a smart/strong woman. Maybe I just have weird friends.
I am attracted to strong (not domineering, just strong), successful women of varying career types. That being said, even as a Jew, I wouldn't be comfortable dating a female Rabbi. It just doesn't feel right, has nothing to do with her being strong. I think if you are going to be open about being a Rabbi, you might in the same breath communicate what your expectations are/aren't for your partners. Hell, if this is JDate, you can copy/paste this into your profile or into emails. It isn't just intimidating, it also feels wrong for some reason. Wish I could be more specific, but I'm just trying to highlight a natural reaction males might be having that you might need to address before they react-without-words. Put another way, you might need to do some educating upfront about what you're being a Rabbi, means for him.
Marc, if you're up for it, it'd actually be really interesting to read more about your instinctive response. Is it an authority-figure thing? A representative of G-d on Earth thing? A sacred-vs.-profane thing?
I'll admit, at first blush it's hard for me to imagine having enthusiastically down-and-dirty sex with a female clergyperson...but these Reform rabbis, at least, seem comfortable embracing the body's capacity for pleasure, and emancipating their congregants from any attached guilt. If that translates to the bedroom? Would that we were all so lucky!
"you might need to do some educating upfront about what you're being a Rabbi, means for him." Women become Rabbis for the same reason that men do=because they want to lead and help a congregation! You claim to be kosher, to like strong women, but you sure sound like a sexist pig to me! How are women who happen to be rabbis different from any other women?
Eh, ease up on the sexism charges, they're not helpful. Dating an authority figure and/or a public figure is complicated even at the best of times, and sex/gender is part of that equation. Women who happen to be rabbis ARE different, like men who happen to be law enforcement officers or women who happen to be CEOs or men who happen to be celebrities. (Maybe it's easier for men, but that's also because many women are attracted to power, and that attraction -- that gender role expectation, that a man SHOULD be powerful and in control -- is no less sexist.)
I'm a troll called "Riiiight".
Rabbi Barr ... wouldn't mind meeting a man like him!
Disappointing article.
Only reason I got here was because I mis-read the tweet link as 'sex advice from rabbits'.
Oy!
L'Shana Tova:)
Happy 5772 to all the Nervers.
A sweet new year to each of you! Have some apple dipped in honey. That's how sweet the year should be/ will be for you.
This is my favorite sex advice article of all time. I love it! The rabbis interviewed were wonderful.
Rabbi Barr doesn't even look 40 in that picture. I really dig his viewpoint and would love to know more about his skincare routine.
I think Rabbi Bellows would get more action if she took off the tallis and wore something to show off her g-d given assets.
Holy crap, I thought it said RABBITS.
I had a MAJOR crush on a women's studies/reli-stu major who was considering rabinnical school. I used to fantasize about... our matrimonial life, and what scared me was about having to be the rebbitsin -- or whatever the male vesrions is called -- because I have a big mouth, and I knew I'd have to keep it shut outside of the house.
Otherwise, just life with another smart strong gorgeous Jewish girl from NY...