So you guys had been dating less than a month before you got engaged? How did this happen?

M: We were cuddled up on the couch, talking about how crazy we were about each other. I said, "If you want to marry me, you have to do it fast, or I'll back out." And he said, "I accept!" He called his mother right then to announce it. So we had an engagement party, and as people were coming in, it was like, "Hey! Meet so-and-so! We're getting married!"

How did people respond?

D: I answered the door, and it was her sister. I introduced myself and said, "I guess I'll be your brother-in-law!" She just walked past me and said, "We'll see about that!"

M: My sister pulled me aside, and said, "I don't know this guy — how could you say you're going to marry him after two weeks? You just broke off another engagement." Then, your dad's sister said, "I want to talk to you, in the bedroom, alone." I went into the bedroom, and she sat down and said, "You've been a friend, but you are a flirt. If you break my brother's heart, I will kill you." No one wanted us to get married. They were all in shock. But the craziness of it didn't register for us. We just felt like we could make a life together.

So how was the wedding?

M: Since he was a student, and I had a pretty good job as the supervisor for the hospital's obstetrics department, I bought our rings and even his suit. I was crazy about him. But then I got cold feet. I tried to back out. Your Dad said, "My great-grandmother is traveling all the way from Ishpeming, Michigan! You are marrying me!" I just thought, "Okay, okay, I can do this." The day of the wedding, as I was getting ready, I poked my head out and saw my future father-in-law walk in, and I said, "Hey! I'm the bride!" He just said, "Yes, I gathered as much." But the wedding was great. It was a fun party. The next day, we drove straight to Florida and toasted champagne at the state line. We camped and went to Disney World and a topless beach, sort of by accident.

So, did your family start to come around after the wedding?

M: They still didn't know what to think. Everyone decided they were just going to watch and see what happened. I just thought, "Damnit, we know it's gonna work — why can't everyone see that?"

Going straight into marriage after such brief dating must have been intense.

D: That first year, we were really dropped into the marriage, without knowing each other's darker sides. Before we were married, we really hadn't fought. But we just trusted our instincts, and were able to work through whatever came up.

M: Now, being dropped into marriage, there were heavenly moments and there were storms. We've had hellacious fights. I know some other couples don't yell and get mad, but your dad and I quickly learned that that's how we both express ourselves. But we could accept that about each other. Just like we were so fiery and passionate in our love, we were fiery and passionate in our fights. We found that we could do that and still be okay. In a way, the fights are just as integral to our relationship, because they define us too.

And it doesn't seem like Dad is insecure about you being outgoing and flirty, unlike your past boyfriends.

M: Luckily, your dad doesn't have a jealous bone in this body, so we never fought about me being too flirty.

D: You are a flirt. But I know you're harmless!

And twenty-nine years later, you guys are still married.

Dad: Younger couples we know sometimes come up to us and say, "We want to be like you guys when we get older." It's because when we're out, we're engaged with each other, and it's genuine. The secret is making time for each other, whether it's a date, or swimming in the pool late at night, or dancing in your back room.

Sometimes, in high school, I would come home at midnight and you guys would be slow dancing in the living room. That wasn't a rare occurrence.

Mom: You want to marry a man who can dance. There's still always a night or two that he puts on some Motown and we dance in the living room. About a year ago, we were out dancing, and when I came off the dance floor, a friend came up and said, "I just love that when you two dance, you really look at each other." Those same moments of passion we had early on are still easily stirred for me. It's not constantly there, but when it is, it's just wonderful. It's so much better than the initial butterflies, because it has depth. 

I'm glad to hear you guys are still dancing. Do you have a song?

Mom: "Into the Mystic," by Van Morrison. Or maybe he would say "Crazy Love," by Van Morrison. Even back when we first met, those were our songs.

Dad: And we always dance to "Brown Eyed Girl," but I sing to your mom, "You're my blue-eyed girl," loud enough for everyone to hear.

Commentarium (28 Comments)

Oct 04 11 - 12:36am
Devin

That was awesome. They seem incredibly cool, down to earth and genuine.

Oct 08 11 - 9:41am
Cammy

They are all of those things! I know them. The author did a tremendous job capturing their essence in this interview! Bravo!

Oct 04 11 - 12:52am
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aaaaaaaaaaaaawwww

Oct 04 11 - 5:26pm
mh

second that

Oct 04 11 - 4:21am
Ickibod

find a guy who can dance. very good advice. great story

Oct 04 11 - 7:56am
Rev

I love this series! So often we see our parents as perpetually old, or in that "marriage rut", and it's hard to see them as young, horny people just like ourselves. It's so nice to be able to read these conversations with somebody's parents, even if it's not our own.

Oct 04 11 - 9:54am
kylidica

swoon

Oct 04 11 - 11:04am
kman

it takes a lot of balls to put the ring on the town slut, im glad it worked out for you brah

Oct 04 11 - 12:41pm
cf

Actually I was thinking that it takes a lot more guts to marry a pothead who banged your friend.

Oct 04 11 - 5:30pm
Mona

And, actually, she was in no way the town slut.

Oct 04 11 - 11:11am
Linus

That wouldn't be Rachel /Rabbit/ White? No wonder you grew up to give good advice and measured opinions, with parents who so clearly know how to love each other!

Oct 04 11 - 12:36pm
Cpt.Douchenozzle

My marriage was under similar circumstances as far as the time line goes. Every one said the same thing when we fist said we were getting married and then they found out that we met at an orgy party and shit really hit the fan. We have been going strong for 9 years, so I love seeing these stories. Congratulations to you and your awesome parents.

Oct 04 11 - 1:53pm
yes

Love, love, love this. Entertaining and inspiring. Thanks for sharing.

Oct 04 11 - 1:56pm
Duana Welch

Rachel, of all your articles, this is my favorite. Thank you --and your folks--for putting your and their hearts out there. Way to go.

Oct 04 11 - 2:00pm
RRW

Loving the love!

Oct 04 11 - 5:29pm
Mona

From the sister who said "we'll see about that", I love the way things have worked out, Debbie and Mark have figured out the secret to marital success, recognizing that the good days incredibly outnumber the not so good.

Oct 04 11 - 6:57pm
Joan d

Love the story, rachael, and love your parents, too.

Oct 04 11 - 8:14pm
sunbrah

this was lovely

Oct 06 11 - 4:41am
a different rachel

this was amazing! almost everyone i know has a fractured family, and wasn't given a very good example of this kind of lasting love. it's nice to read about, and i wish it didn't sound like such a fantasy. thanks for sharing!

Oct 06 11 - 4:42am
a different rachel

also, they look really great, i think even better in the recent photo. :)

Oct 06 11 - 12:02pm
tankboy

Holy mackerel, you look JUST LIKE your mom!

Oct 06 11 - 5:07pm
RRW

Dad's jawline, Mom's eyes. Tendency toward psychedelia and sexual open-ness-- no idea where that came from.

Oct 07 11 - 4:01pm
T Paine

Really lovely story. Love the fact that they still dance together after all these years. Thanks for sharing. You have awesome parents.

Oct 08 11 - 6:28pm
t-money

I loved this. Humour, mutual respect, and moxy--this pair has it all. I also enjoy this feature for the fact that it's the children interviewing the parents.

Oct 10 11 - 2:39pm
Friend

This was a great article. I know the both of them and they are wonderful people and still full of love and passion.

Oct 11 11 - 5:17pm
Diane

It was always a pleasure to be around your parents they bring joy where ever they go. This is a great story. Thanks for sharing.

Oct 11 11 - 6:40pm
Shelby

great story and oh so true. you did a great job, Randy and I are proud of you.

Nov 10 11 - 10:53pm
Mother-inlaw

Rachel has written a beautiful love story. Mark came home for Christmas and I immediately knew he was in love after just two weeks with Debbie. When he called New Years morning to announce his marriage, I asked "are you still drunk?". But I knew it was for real. And it seemed just normal to meet my daughter inlaw to be the night before the wedding. I saw the look of love on Mark's face when he showed me the pictures of Debbie with the babies in the nursery. That was enough for his mom.