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It was over bowls of tomato-basil soup at a low-key, now defunct restaurant that I inadvertently told Bob myself. As the weeknight rain poured outside, Bob mentioned a film he thought we should see. I heartily recommended Bob's pick, and said Keith and I had really liked it and that he probably would, too. I was off-handed in my remarks and more focused on the soup, my favorite.
"What do you mean you and Keith liked it?" Bob asked.
"That we thought it was good. As in, 'not un-good.'"
"Yeah, I got that. What did you mean about you and Keith?" Bob looked at me quizzically, his eyes tinged with hurt. I began to realize he didn't know that Keith and I had been out a few times now.
I proceeded kindly. Bob and I were friends, and we had always treated each other with respect. The last thing I wanted to do was cause him any pain. Then I started wondering, "Why is Bob hurt?" Surely he hadn't attached any emotional content to our singular, disastrous sexual encounter over a year ago. Or had he?
I discovered the answer, as Bob, the straight-laced engineer of Scandinavian descent, stood up in the middle of the assembled diners and yelled, "Litsa, you're just into cold-hearted fucking!"
Everyone turned to look. "Sit down," I hissed and glared at him. Not only am I one-hundred-percent Greek, but I'm Spartan at that — I'd dealt with emotional outbursts my entire life and gave as good as I got. Bob returned to his chair, but it was clear he was seething. In moments, our relaxed meal had turned into an Edward Albee play.
"You know, I've been yelled at by my mom and my aunt, who might just be the world's best yellers. So don't think your pathetic Norwegian attempt is going to rattle me." Admittedly, this might not have been the point, but I was mad now, too. No man had talked to me this way and they sure as hell weren't going to start now. More importantly, from my standpoint, I hadn't done anything wrong.
"Listen, I'm sorry if you're hurt," I said. "But are you seriously upset I've gone out with Keith? You and I slept together once and it was a train wreck." Bob flinched. (Still another lesson learned: don't tell a man your sex with him was a "train wreck," even when that constitutes an understatement.) I sighed. "Bob, you know I would never deliberately hurt you. But you and Keith are housemates, for God's sake. I assumed you knew."
"That's just it," he said, more quietly now. "Keith and I are housemates. Couldn't you have gone out with someone else? Did it have to be Keith?"
Oh, okay. Now we were getting somewhere.
When Bob dropped me off that night, we hugged tentatively and said we'd get together soon. It was a testament to our youth that I think we both meant it but, of course, we never saw each other alone again. Weeks later, he called and asked me to mail him the only copy of a short story he'd written. I didn't do it. Half-hearted reconciliation or not, no one yells at me in public and gets their shit back.
Keith and I soon fizzled out amicably, realizing we had little in common. But it was Bob I ended up missing. We all enter into romance knowing things might get complex. What Keith and I experienced, though, never surpassed mere pleasantness, so the parting was easy. (We, too, remained friendly when we saw each other.) Because Bob and I had been fully clothed during almost all our time together, we talked more. We learned of each other's families and career aspirations and philosophical beliefs, because in addition to movies and authors and mochas, that was our only way to connect. And our burgeoning friendship had ended with hurt feelings on both sides, because I'd slept with his housemate. Strangely, Bob never got mad at Keith; in his mind, I was the only transgressor.
Some friends hold that each other's exes are off-limits, but I can name scads of friends who dated other friends' exes, often with outstanding results. Again, like attracts like, and there's a good chance each of us has a friend who is similar to us, but a better fit for someone we once dated. I know two such couples, in fact, who have been happily married for years. Should they have forgone such fulfillment merely because a compatriot sniffed the bits first? Sting met Trudie Styler, his longtime wife, because she was friends with his first wife. What would our khaki-wearing cohorts listen to today had he not found such bliss? Is it more important to be loyal to your friends or your own potential for love?
As is often the case with love and sex and fair-minded, consenting adults, the answer seems to be, "It depends." None of us wants to be on guard when introducing our partner to our friends. We've all had the quasi-pal who threw themselves at our partner, thereby betraying our trust. But most of us aren't assholes and don't want to hurt anyone. Both romantic and platonic feelings, can run profoundly deep, of course, stirring parts of us we didn't know existed, with unpredictable results. The resulting energy can warm a home or burn it down.
Long ago, I learned far better tricks than pasta sauce and dramedy. As for the larger question: would I go out with Keith again today? Yes, probably. I had no reasonable expectation Bob would care or be hurt. And what if Keith had turned out to be more than a fond anecdote? If we let it, wisdom comes with age. I would discuss things with both men and take it from there.
An unwavering verity I've learned, however, is to keep the black underthings handy. Love and friendship will always be complex, but a few rare elements remain joyfully simple.
Litsa Dremousis is a Seattle-based freelance writer. Her work has appeared in The Believer, Esquire, McSweeney's, the Seattle Weekly and on NPR. She’s currently finishing her first novel. Do yourself a favor and follow her on Twitter.







Commentarium (32 Comments)
I really loved this. Really well written, and funny. I do disagree on one point, though: There are no better tricks than pasta sauce and dramedy.
Thank you, Internet stranger. What a great comment to read 6:15 a.m. here on the West Coast. Cheers.
Great piece - really well-written - but speaking as a fiction writer, not returning his story was the mark of a cold-hearted bitch.
My last ex and I broke up on truly terrible terms, and I never returned a flannel shirt of hers. She never returned quite a lot of my sex toy collection, which I didn't mind, a fairly valuable painting, which I *mostly* didn't mind because it wasn't a good stage in my life for material goods and because the painting reminded me of her - and the only complete copy of my latest novel.
Unlike the rest of my things that she kept, that file had no material worth but quite a lot of emotional worth - it was a labor of love and a metaphorical chronicle of the breakup, which she may have realized after she read it. I begged her to send the file, because I stupidly had not backed it up online, and my home had been burglarized and my computer stolen. She refused.
Dating his roommate could happen to anyone. Not realizing he still had feelings for you could also happen to anyone, although happens easier to the people who like to pretend to ignore it. Getting angry that he shouted is justifiable. Not giving him back his story makes you a complete tool. You lost all my sympathy and I barely skimmed the rest of the story.
agreed. HEARTILY.
Yeah I'm gonna second this. If you still have that copy, Litsa, you should send it to him. It's wrong for you to keep it.
In case "Northern Exposure" on VHS and every other discernible detail didn't underscore this point, I will explicate: this story occurred 19 years ago. I included the un-returned short story in order to be fair, i.e. to point out I'm not the hero and he's not the villain. That this occurred in shades of gray, as life usually does. Notably, no one of either gender takes umbrage w/ the fact Bob screamed at me in public in an attempt to humiliate me.
His mistake of yelling was purely emotional. Your mistake of keeping his file is premeditated assholeness.
Once again, I'm gonna agree with a previous responder. I've enjoyed your other stories Litsa, and obviously this happened too long ago for it to mean anything. But was a couple seconds of public humiliation (in front of strangers that don't matter) really worth basically destroying the only copy of someone's artwork? Him yelling at you wasn't the right thing to do, but every once in awhile our emotions get the best of us. I also think you misunderstand why public outburst like that happen. Do you really believe he yelled at you with the explicit intent to humiliate? I seriously doubt it. More likely he was flabbergasted that someone so close to him could have disregarded his feelings when it came to their decisions on who to have sex with. Not saying you didn't have a right to sleep with Keith or that you did it on purpose, far from it. I'm just saying there's little to no chance he yelled like that to embarrass you. Even if he had, it shouldn't have mattered that much to you at all.
Thanks for including the detail anyway - it performed the function you wanted it to, at least. It's great seeing how this connected with your Halloween story, and you're a gifted writer.
Ryan, I appreciate your adult and nuanced response. We agree on a number of points and I like your approach to the ones on which we differ. All the best.
It is an interesting detail, Litsa, and full of meaning. For example, it may well have been a mediocre time-based essay; but by now I'm sure he has inflated it to being considerably better than the Gettysburg Address. Of course, this again confirms my belief that any sexual encounter that contains the sound, "Ooooopps!" foretells a rocky relationship.
I'm confused. You're angry at him for divulging your sexual habits in public, or at least how he felt about them. Yet you in turn divulge his sexual shortcomings with you in public, and keep his story? Sounds like the only mistake he made was not publishing "Litsa, you're just into cold-hearted fucking!".
I doubt he wants this published anymore than you wanted him to yell.
Fell off? I once had a condom break during some really awesome sex (damn you trojan). Man, that was a tremendous mood killer. It was a one night stand and round two for us that evening. But I can totally relate that kind of thing really makes it completely unsexy in every imaginable way and no matter how good it was up until that point, everything suddenly sucks.
First- liked this! Lost condom? Been there, done that. Yelled at in public 'cause he was upset and I had no clue? Been there, done that. Dated the room mate of a friend? Yep, and married him (the room mate.) And lost a whole lot of letters and stories that I'd written, during the marriage, during the divorce. In defense of the author, she was young. And, writers need to learn to back up their material-- even if it requires a trip to a copy shop.
I liked the rest, but your opening was awkwardly written and stretched...
and Salk didn't cure polio. His vaccine can prevent polio.
Drat! It's a wonderfully funny story, but certainly not Dad-readable!
(For the record, my work used to involve working with Litsa's Dad.)
Is someone you sleep with once and then hang out with sans sex considered an ex? If so, I have a shitload more exes than I ever realized.
And P.S., for all the people that are up in arms over this woman not returning this guy's short story: If someone revealed the extent of my ho-bag-ness to an entire restaurant, I would destroy his entire goddamn ouevre with impunity. That is some fucked up shit to do to a lady, even one as slutty as myself.
I respect enormously you for introducing "ho-bagness" into this discussion. XOXO.
@ss
You are too funny.
Maybe as a sign of largesse, she could have returned it.
Once again, a well written, funny story. Love the last line.
Great article! You had me from the start. We all have missteps in our dating and relationships. The key is to learn from those things and apply them to future relationships, as I think you illustrate quite well.
And not giving back the short story? That's no big deal. If you'd published it, that's be a whole other thing.
Please, please, *somebody*, turn this into a rom-com (or would it be an anti-rom-com?) in which no one gets the girl in the end but we all get that lost condom moment and the line about the pliers and the Albee dinner. Please! I find the dynamics of the friendships and flings here to be not only fascinating (he wasn't the least bit angry with KEITH? KEITH didn't get accused of "cold-hearted fucking" during a restaurant spectacle?!) but right on. Well-done, you!
I met my current partner, who I love like fucking mad and with whom I live and suspect I will spend a very, very long time (I am not fond of saying we will be ~2gEtHeR 4eVeR~*) because he watched his housemate crash, burn, and blow it with me. I had been pursuing the other dude to no avail (despite the fact that mutual friends gave him endless shit about getting in his own way and refusing to let it happen) and was letting it go when he embarrassed the hell out of me in public and refused to apologize and did a whole bunch of other childish, obnoxious crap that I very, very grudgingly was going to forgive (not without giving him hell first, though! I had just agreed to resume civil interaction if he gave me a few days of silence to cool off, in contrast to the week I spent waking up to groveling, pathetic text message novels that amounted to "I'm still not going to apologize and you should still forgive me because I am miserable at having fucked this up") and then his housemate contacted me. Like in your story, the original guy never got mad at his housemate but gave me passive aggressive shit for a week. He found out that I was seeing his housemate when he walked in drunk as hell in the middle of the night to us watching Let The Right One In on the couch...and then I didn't leave until 7 AM.
Great writing, I will now follow you on the Twitter and more than likely purchase your novel. If you remind me on Twitter when it comes out, of course. I wonder what Bob thinks about this article?!
YOU ARE TEARING ME APAAAAAAART LITSA!!!
Oh Hi, Mark.
"Both romantic and platonic feelings, can run profoundly deep, of course, stirring parts of us we didn't know existed, with unpredictable results. The resulting energy can warm a home or burn it down."
Loved this line, lovely...
Thank you. All the best!
Re: When you can start seeing friends of an ex- (even a one-off), is like trying to decide when you can start making jokes about a horrific tragedy. Some people seem to be able to do it the next day, while others won't get over it for over a decade. I think it's best to play it safe by not going with a friend of an ex- until such time as that ex- has hooked up with someone else. At least then they won't have any excuse to get upset.
Litza, finding myself amused at the tenor of the replies.
But that's a GOOD thing, eh? The only bad review is the one not written, the only bad comment is the one titled "yawn."
I for one think you likely did the boy Bob a favor destroying his document. Hemingway, in "A Moveable Feast" describes a moment when his wife inadvertently loses a trunk full of his early writing in a train station, never to be found again. At first devastated, he realizes that it was probably the best thing she ever did for him, and encourages as a cure-all tonic for all new writers to lose a trunk full of their early efforts.
On another note, to this day 20 years later and to my grave a kiss with the ex of a friend of mine. A kiss to remember for a lifetime. A perfect kiss. Her casual and seemingly non-reasoned disengagement following a perfect kiss has been an enigma for me. Because she felt it too.
Go figure, eh?
Litsa,
You are funny as hell!
In my opinion, sleep with my friend (hurts - oh well) but gimme back my story!!