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Men get defensive about their foreskins. There are groups such as NOCIRC whose members feel that circumcision robbed them personally and that the process violates the rights of newborns every day. But at twenty-two, I couldn't wait to get rid of mine.
 &nbsp  The need for my circumcision started with sex, which is more than a lot of people can say. My penis and I had issues, issues going back to the summer of 2000. That was when I tried having sex with my girlfriend, Chloe, without a condom for the first time. When I looked at her and she okayed it with a blink, I reared up eager and got her on the kitchen counter.

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 &nbsp  And there was bleeding.
 &nbsp  Logic would dictate it was her, but it wasn't. My frenulum — the small line of sinewy flesh that attached my foreskin to the glans of my penis — had ripped in two, and it was bleeding, enough-to-freak-me-the-fuck-out-bleeding, on the tile floor.
 &nbsp  "Oh my God!" my girlfriend said, or something similarly appropriate, then grabbed a roll of paper towels so I could stanch it. I kissed her and told her that it was because she was so tight, which it probably was, then I cleaned up the floor and put her to bed and we slept chastely, me with toilet paper wrapped around myself.
 &nbsp  We figured that was a sign. Over the next few weeks, we went back to using condoms, and I had to fuck over a pesky scab. I tried not to jerk off, but I've never been good at that. I tried not to have sex, but I haven't been good at that either. So for two weeks we had slow but satisfying sex, during which I was careful not to re-break my dick.


The summer before Chloe, I dated a very over-the-top older woman from Long Island named Elyssa. Whether I was having sex with her (we always used condoms) or just jerking off, a certain amount of activity would make small cuts appear on the inside of my foreskin. As I drew back to piss, the cuts would get pulled apart and sting like a motherfucker. Waking up every morning was an adventure. The first thing I would do was retract my foreskin and see what the damage was — a one? A ten?

I was duplicitous, and now I might have given the girl I loved cancer.

 &nbsp  I began to think the mangled state of my penis was a reaction to latex, so I had sex with Elyssa without a condom, and then we both got tested for HIV. (I hadn't thought that out very well.) I came back clean, and I've been tested many times since.
 &nbsp  After two years of fighting with this tight foreskin/burning/fear/morning penis checks/recovery/healing, I finally visited my family doctor, the guy who tested my reflexes when I was a little boy.
 &nbsp  "You have a balanitis," he said.
 &nbsp  Balanitis, according to the Cleveland Clinic health center, is "an inflammation of the skin covering the head of the penis." This is the sort of catch-all foreskin disorder that doctors diagnose when nothing worse is wrong. Anyway, my doctor told me that my foreskin was very tight — this was something I had been born with — and that I might want to consider circumcision to fix it.
 &nbsp  I researched adult circumcision online and found a first-hand account which was written by an anonymous British man for the Acorn Society, "a U.K. based, non-profit group whose members have traumas, fetishes or fascinated interest in their own or others' penises." It didn't sound so bad. The Brit was masturbating again within three weeks. His girlfriend even videotaped the whole procedure.
 &nbsp  Still, I didn't want to go through that at the moment. I had been dating Chloe for a while, and sex was great as it was. I figured it could wait.


Turns out, it couldn't. The reason was Jackie. She went to my college and had a tall, pale body that she shrouded in coats and long auburn hair. We met, kissed, got drunk and had sex — the whole deal — on St. Patrick's Day. Jackie was important, not just because she was the first new girl I'd had sex with in 700 days. She was also number eight.
 &nbsp  When I was eighteen, I went to a website called TheSpark.com and took a sex-predictor test. I answered some questions ("How many people have you kissed?", "How many girlfriends have you had?"), and the site forecasted the number of people I would have sex with in my lifetime. I was thinking I would get 100 or 200, or at least double digits, and then the answer came back.
 &nbsp  Seven.
 &nbsp  I mean, c'mon. The average American woman sleeps with six men in her entire life. I was going to sleep with one more than that? I was pissed, but even more so four years later, when I was with Chloe and stuck on that number seven. Chloe, meanwhile, had slept with fourteen guys.
 &nbsp  Then I met Jackie. We were at a party; Chloe was at home. Jackie could drink, whereas I was never quite dedicated enough to get into it. We got to one of those critical moments, the moments that have bewitched me before, where you either kiss or shut up; you either make a move or become a platonic friend. So I brought her home.
 &nbsp  Jackie was eager to have sex with me. We made out, her top came off quickly and then she was wet and then she was grabbing my hips and pulling me into her, but I said no and put on a condom. I fucked Jackie with this condom but at the end it ripped, so I came inside her a little.
 &nbsp  Afterward, I sat on the toilet with the ripped condom on and wondered why I do this. Like some people do drugs, perfectly mindful that they could O.D., I break condoms and gamble. Luckily, Jackie got her period a few days later.
 &nbsp  Chloe and I had promised we would tell one another if we cheated. So I told her. She didn't take it well. Sometimes you need to sleep with girl number eight to really convince yourself of the sanctity of girl number seven.
 &nbsp  But apparently, I couldn't learn this without picking up genital warts.


Genital warts are caused by a strain of the human papillomavirus, or HPV, the most commonly occurring sexually transmitted disease in the U.S. According to CDC estimates, twenty million people have it. In my case, the warts that HPV causes started as micro-corpuscles that I thought were a prelude to another episode of jagged cuts on my foreskin but soon progressed into full-grown, can't-deny-them warts. Ten of them, small but vital, spread out on the inside of my foreskin.
 &nbsp  I went back to my family doctor. "You got these from the girl," he said. "Definitely. And you need to have your girlfriend checked out because they're not going to hurt you — they're just hard to get rid of. But in women, they can be a contributing factor to cervical cancer."

It's like pod people. Like pod people on my dick!

 &nbsp  Fuck. So I did it. I really did it. I was duplicitous, I had a virus, and now I might have given the girl I loved cancer. I talked to Chloe; she had just seen the gynecologist and everything was okay. But she'll go again and from now on, I'm paying for it.
 &nbsp  "Now the problem with these guys," my doctor continued, "is they're very hard to get rid of. I can zap them off, but you need to keep coming back for months and months to make sure all the babies are gone."
 &nbsp  "Uh . . . " It's like pod people. Like pod people on my dick!
 &nbsp  "Now we talked about circumcision before . . . " the doctor said.
 &nbsp  Bingo. "Will that get rid of it?"
 &nbsp  "Yes."
 &nbsp  "Let's do it."


A week later, I sat in the urologist's office with Chloe, reading Fortune and wondering how soon I could function with her again. The night before, I had been too drunk, and in the morning she had given me my last uncircumcised wank, an expert handjob under pressure.
 &nbsp  When it came time to enter the doctor's office/operating room, Chloe came with me. I introduced her to the doctor, then asked him if she could videotape the proceedings with her digital camera.
 &nbsp  "No," he said, as if I'd asked him to wear a dress.
 &nbsp  "Well, can she be with me during the operation?" I continued.
 &nbsp  "No," he said again. "It's short. She'll see you after."
 &nbsp  And so I lay down and got injected and woke up really fucked up with what felt like a ring of fire around the end of my dick. I staggered out to Chloe, asked for some Doritos and told her about the ring of fire. She told me that that Johnny Cash song "Ring of Fire" was about herpes. I thought about that as I sat in a leather chair in the recovery room, freshly cut, with old men who probably had more medically interesting problems. God, it burned.
 &nbsp  Just then, I was with the NOCIRC people. I felt for the babies of the world.


Well, I tore through the Vicodin in one weekend. The dressing came off my penis after two days, just like the guy in England's. (Before that, it looked like a corn dog, all wrapped up.) It looked pretty good, but the head of my dick was bright red and incredibly painful to the touch; every time it rubbed against my pants, it was like torture. Layers of skin kept peeling off and getting replaced. The stitches were black and fascinating — I was held together down there so expertly, my foreskin denuded and then stitched under the head of my glans, just like a tailor's alteration. I picked at the stitches and removed some of them (they were self-dissolving anyway), because I read that if they stayed in too long they might cause holes, like earring holes.
 &nbsp  I tried to jerk off once or twice, but that wasn't happening. Thankfully, I had familiarized myself with the unorthodox techniques of one Jonathan Ames, contemporary American novelist, who writes in his book What Is Not to Love?, "I've never been one to jerk on my penis, unlike most men, who employ that rapid up-and-down yanking, which when I've witnessed other men masturbating — in parks or public restrooms, those sorts of locales — I've always found to be somewhat unattractive."
 &nbsp  Mr. Ames strums with his fingers, tapping his penis like a small saxophone that can only have four chromatically rising notes played in a row. It's a process I haven't seen but have heard described at readings. Since jerking hurt, I thought I might try it.
 &nbsp  So, when I wasn't entertaining Chloe with the Tera Patrick cherry-scented vibrator and other tools we'd been collecting for two years, I strummed to thehun.com. And it worked. I beat that damn guy in England by a week to my first circumcised wank. I was worried that this activity (soon repeated) would scar me for life, but I soon stopped fretting because my dick looked fine. The front, the part that would face you in a lineup, looked like it had always been circumcised.

It was kind of like the opposite of an orgasm: insistent, disastrous, deadly.

 &nbsp   Soon came my final visit with the urologist, who told me, with a thumbs-up, that I was "okay" for sex. ("I mean, no rough stuff," he said. "It's still a wound.") I started jerking off studiously in preparation for the Big Day, which ended up taking place on a trip with Chloe, in a bed and breakfast.
 &nbsp  "You're okay?" Chloe asked right before. That took me back, because it was what the other girl had asked, four years previous, when I had that other Big Day, the Really Big One, where I got to actually put my penis inside a girl and attack her like a man. That experience was a disaster — it revealed sex as one of those curious phenomena that lived up to its hype but was simultaneously a pummeling disappointment — because I couldn't come. The first girl had gotten mad and sore and hit me with her small fists: "What's wrong with you?" And here was Chloe, also with small fists, asking if I was okay prior to entry.
 &nbsp  Foreplay is never that long with us — we try our best to be Americans. There is messy kissing of the ears and neck, tongue traces on the sides of the breasts, and then she was on top of me with a condom properly positioned and she said, "Oh, God," which always hits a particular nerve that goes right from my penis to my brain, as she scrunched down on it. (It!) She smiled. I was so happy. I picked up her small but shapely butt and worked her, with us attached at the mouth, one hand twisting her nipple, so happy that I got to do this again but with a horrible feeling creeping up my spine to the back of my brain. It was kind of like the opposite of an orgasm: insistent, disastrous, deadly.
 &nbsp  It didn't feel as good.
 &nbsp  It really didn't feel as good. It was an entirely different experience from sex with a foreskin, kind of like Star Wars vs. Star Wars: Episode I. I never realized how much sexual pleasure was derived from my foreskin rubbing back and forth against my glans - a little bit of masturbation mixed in with sex. I had become dependent on this friction, and now, with the condom on the naked head of my dick, all I was getting was burnt rubber. If the condom were off, I knew I'd be getting the old friction from Chloe, assuming she wasn't too wet, which is another one of those sex Catch-22s, but I wasn't going to try that now. I just pulled Chloe close to me after five minutes and faked it, then ran into the bathroom to snap my empty condom into the toilet.
 &nbsp  "Did you?" she asked. I lied.
 &nbsp  We did it again, and I lied again.
 &nbsp  We did it again and this time I didn't lie; this time I told her it wasn't working, I'm sorry, I don't know what's wrong with me, I'm so sorry. Getting a guy off can be important for a girl. I know it's important to Chloe. She likes to have me look at her and keep my eyes wide open when I'm coming; she holds them open like in A Clockwork Orange so she can see me see her smiling at me.
 &nbsp  "It won't work with the condom on," I told her.
 &nbsp  "But we can't . . . " She was thinking about disease.
 &nbsp  "I know, but the doctor told me the warts are gone; I'm okay," I said. Which was true. He had said that. He had also told me to wear condoms, but for my own protection, not for Chloe's. He was openly suspicious of Chloe.
 &nbsp  "I looked it up on the Internet," Chloe said. Now we were sitting up in bed. "I can still get it from you even though they're gone."
 &nbsp  "Yeah, but you can get it if I wear condoms too," I told her, and rolled out of bed to her laptop. Ah, WebMD. Sex in the 2000s. "See?" I pulled up one of the many articles about HPV. It said that there were upwards sixty strains of the virus, that only the "low-risk" types cause genital warts; it's the nasty "high-risk" types that are factors for cervical cancer. If I had given her those, they would have shown up in her recent exam. Plus, the article said that we were all diseased anyway, that "upwards of two-thirds of all sexually active adults test positive for human papillomavirus," that condoms wouldn't prevent it because they don't cover the whole genital area, and that your immune system can keep it in check for decades, so long as you get your regular check-ups … Plus, I did have the top of my dick lopped off to get rid of the damn thing. And my doctor said it was gone. And there weren't any official articles about circumcision's effect on HPV, because, really, was anyone as fucked-up as me?
 &nbsp  "This is stupid," Chloe said. Then we kissed.
 &nbsp  So I took off the condom and we had sex. After a few minutes, I got behind her. This worked. I pulled out and came all over her butt, and also on her back and wrist, somehow. It was top ten, in terms of life-or-death evacuation orgasms. Jesus.
 &nbsp  The new intensity and lack of spurt control have since outpaced the old, safe friction. Chloe and I are as happy as we used to be. There's less rebound time for me, so Chloe and I do it twice on average. There was one thing I had in the back of my mind when I went in for circ — would Chloe do more oral stuff with me now? We have never done that much; I always get impatient and go for the gold if she's down there, but I've heard/read/gleaned-through-diffusion that girls don't like sucking uncircumcised dicks; that's apparently something like sucking off a giant fungus. So maybe now would be different.
 &nbsp  Well, it's only slightly different. We're getting there, though. The circ helps.
 &nbsp  When you think about it, turning into an adult, you don't get any new parts but you lose plenty — a full set of teeth (and then maybe some adult ones), a hymen, a thread of bone in a broken arm. All you do when you grow up is lose. I just happened to lose a very critical, complicated piece of me, and with it some complicated ideas, like the one that I'm supposed to fuck as many girls as possible in my twenties.  






ABOUT
THE AUTHOR:
Denver
Preiss
writes books, remains loyal to his girlfriend, and tries not to kill himself in Brooklyn, NY. He can be reached at denverpreiss@yahoo.com.




©2003 Denver Preiss and Nerve.com

Comments ( 35 )

there were so many moments in this essay where i was caught in a moment of awe by the linguistic humor or reference to something strangely seemingly familiar that i think can only be explained through literary genius. Easily one of the best essays I have read on nerve.com
LM commented on Dec 04 03 at 1:56 pm
Yes, i agree, one of the best pieces I've read on nerve. fucking great.
commented on Dec 04 03 at 2:14 am
this is one of the best things ive ever read here. thank you so much.
bk1 commented on Dec 04 03 at 12:04 pm
This is easily the most interesting essay Nerve has run in years. It harkens back to the old days, when Nerve was good. Well written, damn interesting. Fucking good.
ME commented on Dec 05 03 at 1:57 am
bad ass! more more more!
slut commented on Dec 04 03 at 2:34 pm
"Gee Honey,you probably have a warts virus anyway, so why do you care if I give you another strain??" Fucking Men.
GDE commented on Dec 04 03 at 5:32 pm
Am I the only one who thought this was awkwardly written and inconsistant? The writer can't seem to get a grip on whether he's trying to horrify, amuse, or titillate us. It's an interesting topic, but the writing needs some serious editing.
rah commented on Dec 04 03 at 5:46 pm
I could not tell if the author was happy or sad about his circ. I can tell you that Nerve should feature more foreskin stories. Girls are interested, straight guys want to learn more and gay guys are totally into it.
jl commented on Dec 04 03 at 5:58 pm
--"There's less rebound time for me, so Chloe and I do it twice on average." -- what's that got to do with a circ? can anyone tell me???
L.L. commented on Dec 04 03 at 6:16 pm
"Am I the only one who thought this was awkwardly written and inconsistant? The writer can't seem to get a grip on whether he's trying to horrify, amuse, or titillate us. It's an interesting topic, but the writing needs some serious editing."Why can't he do it all?
slut commented on Dec 04 03 at 6:32 pm
Women beware misogyny at its finest, "He had also told me to wear condoms, but for my own protection, not for Chloe's. He was openly suspicious of Chloe." And what does being an American have to do with foreplay? This could only be written by a man. Chloe if you are still with Mr. Circ dump him. He's proud of his "[...] lack of spurt control [...]." To the editors, what the heck happened? Why would you publish this rubbish?
ESC commented on Dec 04 03 at 11:44 pm
because it's honest.
-eds commented on Dec 05 03 at 12:59 am
I'll admit it: I was insecure about the modification of my unit given to me by my generous parents. I've felt that part of my manhood was missing and, damn, that's just a bummer. So, even though the author doesn't enthusiastically give circs the thumbs-up, he discusses it as something that has its pros and cons. And that's enough to shed some insecurities and boost my confidence regarding my genitalia -- we can all agree this is a good thing. Thanks Nerve. ... and re: "misogyny, misogyny, blah." If the genders were reversed or if it was two gay guys you misogyny-baiters wouldn't even notice so spare us your personal animosities. Can't a guy be an asshole without being accused of misogyny?
ndm commented on Dec 05 03 at 2:00 am
awesome! I loved it!
JLM commented on Dec 05 03 at 2:25 pm
Of course, an essay that rearticulates a normative American sexual physiology has a distinct appeal to its audience so constantly filled with anxiety about difference. This piece allows the positions of readers on both sides of this issue to be right. Those who support routine circumcision (or, for whatever reason, prefer the mutilated member) feel that this approach is confirmed by the author's tribulations. Those who oppose non-medically-indicated dick-snipping can feel mollified as the author claims that this procedure was necessary. So few American parents and doctors when faced with a penis in its natural state know what to do with it. Balanitis is often the result of damage from attempts to "clean" under a child's foreskin long before the physiology of the penis would allow it or even necessitate it. It's entirely likely that Denver's phallic misfortunes might have been avoided. Who knows? He seem's happy, so I guess that's what's important. Unfortunately, this discourse only reaffirms an American hegemony about the male body: circumcision is desirable and more importantly inevitable. Certainly not true. Of course, judging by the responses to this piece and the lack of any essays on Nerve celebrating the foreskinned penis, an essay on the penis in peril appears to be a crowd-pleaser. I'm sure all readers join me in wishing Denver's dick well. I'm less certain than he is about his wart cure, but that's for him to negotiate with his partners. Let's hope honesty will in the future triumph over desire.
JR commented on Dec 07 03 at 2:50 pm
ndm, a misogynist comes under many disguises regardless of gender and/or sexual preference. I’d be curious to know what the doctor would have warned him about if he were a homosexual? Would he have made despairing remarks about his partner? If so would the writer have reacted to it? This piece not only reflects the problematic representation of gender roles in our society, but also that we seem so willing not to use condoms (we can all agree that there are other 'scarier' STDs that condoms can protect us and our partners from). I’m glad that you were able to grasp some liberating degree of wisdom from this piece, but the fact still remains that it was badly written!
ESC commented on Dec 07 03 at 2:51 pm
not very well written, but interesting topic.
mo commented on Dec 07 03 at 4:02 pm
i wouldn't let them take off my foreskin for the world. and fyi women outside the US think that circumsized dicks are disgusting. guess it's just what you're used to.
GED commented on Dec 09 03 at 1:22 am
Hello I read your essay with great interest. I am from England where circumcision today is not common. When I was born in the 1930's it was quite widespread in England. I was not cut at birth but always wanted to be. Eventually at the age of 40 I was circumcised, at my own request, and I consider it one of the best things that ever happened tome. Everything and I mean everything is so much better: appearance, sex, cleanliness, no stink and no smegma. If anybody is hesitating about getting a circumcision, don't. I consider it one of the best things that ever happened to me Neville England
NS commented on Dec 08 03 at 3:02 pm
Thank you! I had the same operation at age 24, and for the same reason(s). In terms of the quality of sex, I felt like what I lost in feeling, especially while masturbating, was made up for by the benefits of a cleaner entry and not having to worry about the skin getting folded over. Though I never bled, I came close. My wife knows, but I've never told my family.
LA commented on Dec 08 03 at 3:22 pm
Yes, more foreskin articles. It is an interesting topic for many people. It's too bad that something so natural looks so bizarre to the culturally-untrained eye. The foreskinned penis is indeed an interesting creature. ;) About the writing style... at least he doesn't sound like a teenage ditz... Not that bad at all- the tone and the audience just needs to be determined and approached consistently.
nYah commented on Dec 08 03 at 7:59 pm
Cheating = genital warts. Karma, maybe? Serves you right.
commented on Dec 08 03 at 10:18 pm
Dear ESC: If we speculate that the doctor would respond asymetrically when the genders were reversed, then it follows that the doctor is misogynist. What suggests this speculation is valid? Nothing but your own bias. We don't know what the doctor said about the gf because the author didn't write it. Maybe he made disparraging remarks and maybe he didn't and the author's sense that the doctor mistrusted her was just a hunch. Or maybe the doctor did make disparraging remarks but they had more to do with the doctor's distrust of anybody who would want to video tape their bf's circumcision and not of her as a woman. Or maybe, and this is what I think is most likely, the doctor doesn't hate women but mistrusts them because he had horrible experiences in the past and he is unfairly letting those past biases distort her character. That's a naive viewpoint and we should all guard ourselves against those types of conclusions, but it's not misogyny.
ndm commented on Dec 08 03 at 11:14 pm
For the record, my doctor said "You got this from the girl, and you need to have her checked out" and then he gave me a dark look, so that was what I meant by "openly suspicious of Chloe" .
d.p. commented on Dec 09 03 at 4:03 am
Thanks for the cirklist fantasy! Love the novel resons why it needed to be done...you guys come up with more and more imaginative ones every day.
RM commented on Dec 09 03 at 9:23 pm
I was circumcised at age 12 before I started developing pubic hair. I feel I was robbed of my sensory feelings down there..On a positive side is easier to clean, I had it done in October 1963. I have no real idea how a non-circumcide guy feels like. Any comments ? Tony
A.M commented on Dec 09 03 at 10:29 pm
What a load of mutilated crap.
IM commented on Dec 10 03 at 9:19 pm
Disappointing; I think the author was disconnected from his dick before the circ. Too bad he didn't have the counsel of an experienced uncut man before making the decision. His glans peels and he sees no problem with circumcision? -- And the loss of orgasmic threshold? -- And the idea that women will more readily do oral w/men who are cut? Perhaps unsophisticated, immature women. Women Who Like Sex Prefer Uncut Men. 'Nuff said.
CK commented on Dec 11 03 at 12:59 am
There is another side to the story.... check out the foreskin restoration at 4restore.com and see it yourself.
SKK commented on Dec 11 03 at 4:40 am
I've never seen a circumcised penis in the flesh. And I don't want to either, really. Thank goodness I'm British. You know that a person with a tight foreskin can get it loosened without needing to resort to circumcision? Tch!
ELM commented on Dec 11 03 at 3:25 pm
I feel it is great that your family respected your basic human rights and allowed you to make the decision be cut or uncut. Often in america, men at this point rarley get the opertunity to make such a choice. Can you imagine what is must of felt like as a man to never know the feeling of being uncircumcisized. I personally feel you should have explored other options than and extreme one like circumcision, there are many out there. But still, You had the choice over 70% of the U.S. will never have.
JONG commented on Dec 11 03 at 8:10 pm
I thought this was very interesting and sexy at the same time. I don't think I've ever know anyone uncircumsized, but then again I've only been with 3 guys at the age of 21. I wonder if the second wasn't, but have never seen one and been told "THATS what it looks like." SO I don't know. Like everyone else I heard that it makes a guy very sensitive, because of the protection and everything. I'm not sure what else to say except great article, keep writing, and I love your "author description." Stay safe, fun, and faithful!
WC commented on Dec 11 03 at 9:37 pm
It's rare for me to actually get to read anything dealing with circumsicion. Then again, I don't go looking for articles about it, until now. Through a story like this, I learn a bit more about myself and learn how to deal with this (my uncut penis). And I have to disagree with those who think that you should be "cut". Circumsicion is not for every guy. It'll work for some and not for others. It's basically about who you are as a person and how you feel about yourself. In my opinion (not yours, not anybody else) that the article was pretty good. Before, it was kinda hard dealing with this, especially living all your life in a place like Hawaii where cultural and social views are so so conservative that it makes dealing with a subject such as this very difficult. So I say...good job to the article and ROCK ON...oh...and bring on some more stories like this
QV commented on Dec 14 03 at 7:59 pm
The narration is smooth and relatable. Very well-written, if slightly low-brow.
TJ commented on Dec 15 03 at 3:23 am
I thought the story was inaccurate, full of myths with respect to uncircumcised men, and childish to say the least. 1. Should women be circumcised? I mean, whats a little skin removed from a lady's labia? 2. Lesbians get cevical cancer, how do you explain that? 3. If you were meant to be circumcised, you would have been born that way. 4. As a gay man who has seen many dicks, cut & uncut, I've never heard of anyone bleeding, gross!!
W V commented on Dec 18 03 at 10:50 pm

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