I must have tried to access this website at least five times.
I see the names on the right, I click on one at randon, but nothing happens. Is there a trick ?
Please reply to tmagri22@hotmail.com
I love contrast. To have the posibility to be male and female. Not only in a phisical way, the pose. I want in a totality of the existence. Who is the man. Who is the active. I don
Ovelman's focus on cariacture is exactly the point; that they are stereotypical poses that anyone can mimic with exactitude is the point. Ovelman's work highlights the butch/femme inherent in all of us. That the poses are silly and funny adds to the works universality. I think the last thing one would want is a serious take on gay men who act like queens and vice versa; there's too much post-structuralist thinking that requires the viewer to think that butch/femme posture relates to a social construct, one that has been forced upon the public by the viscious and evil patriarchy. It's heartening to see that there is an artist out there who stays clear of all that hogwash. Bravo!!
Also, the work highlights gestural language. One reply focused on the twisted posture of the "femme" images. Taken from half remembered images from the poses of femmes fatales and old Hollwood testifies to the power of visual culture to dictate behavior.
These weren't very exciting, interesting or telling.
Ask any five year old to pretend to be a "big man strong man" or a "pretty lady" and you would get all the caricature-like responses that any and all of the photos display. The fact that these identifying stereotypes persist is no big secret. However, finding a more thought provoking way to communicate even common knowledge should be the goal of the artist. The photographs fell short. I'm a little surprised and even disappointed that twenty gay men out on the town weren't even a little more entertaining.
The commentary mentions looking straight vs. looking up, but what's most consistent to me is that the bodies in the femme poses are more twisted, turned, angled, and akimbo than in the butch poses. I'm not going to try to interpret that, but I wonder about its significance.
i am in france
i read the text about Joe ovelman; but i can not see the models who are on the right of the web page
who can help me.
god bless America
gv
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I must have tried to access this website at least five times.
I see the names on the right, I click on one at randon, but nothing happens. Is there a trick ?
Please reply to tmagri22@hotmail.com
I love contrast. To have the posibility to be male and female. Not only in a phisical way, the pose. I want in a totality of the existence. Who is the man. Who is the active. I don
I clicked on the names on the right but nothing came up.JB
Ovelman's focus on cariacture is exactly the point; that they are stereotypical poses that anyone can mimic with exactitude is the point. Ovelman's work highlights the butch/femme inherent in all of us. That the poses are silly and funny adds to the works universality. I think the last thing one would want is a serious take on gay men who act like queens and vice versa; there's too much post-structuralist thinking that requires the viewer to think that butch/femme posture relates to a social construct, one that has been forced upon the public by the viscious and evil patriarchy. It's heartening to see that there is an artist out there who stays clear of all that hogwash. Bravo!!
Also, the work highlights gestural language. One reply focused on the twisted posture of the "femme" images. Taken from half remembered images from the poses of femmes fatales and old Hollwood testifies to the power of visual culture to dictate behavior.
horray for your project. It was interesting to me that in almost every instance the "femme" picture is the only one that seems to reveal anything.
Nick's pix are fine as either femme or butch. But even his femme pix are butcher than other guys' butch pix. Wow!
These weren't very exciting, interesting or telling.
Ask any five year old to pretend to be a "big man strong man" or a "pretty lady" and you would get all the caricature-like responses that any and all of the photos display. The fact that these identifying stereotypes persist is no big secret. However, finding a more thought provoking way to communicate even common knowledge should be the goal of the artist. The photographs fell short. I'm a little surprised and even disappointed that twenty gay men out on the town weren't even a little more entertaining.
Dear GV,
To see the images, just click on the names to the right.
The commentary mentions looking straight vs. looking up, but what's most consistent to me is that the bodies in the femme poses are more twisted, turned, angled, and akimbo than in the butch poses. I'm not going to try to interpret that, but I wonder about its significance.
hi
i am in france
i read the text about Joe ovelman; but i can not see the models who are on the right of the web page
who can help me.
god bless America
gv