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The Lesson
May 25, 2000
"In my secret life I do bad things," Lanette wrote to me in an email. "Not real bad things. I don't know why I'm telling you this. Sometimes I fantasize about meeting you." It's my policy to never have sex with my readers I feel like they would be too busy imagining how they'd be written up while we did it. Even Dave is not allowed to read the diary. But I find Lanette so intriguing, the way she bursts with urges and worries and changes her mind all the time, I want to make her mine.
Lanette pictures our meeting like this: "You would open the door and look at me but before you could say anything I would grab your face and bite your lower lip. Is that weird?" Of course it's not weird, and if it weren't for her fretting about it, it would even be mundane. She reminds me of Dave when I first met him, how she's really bold and then she retracts it all. She looks like me except that she's really beautiful. Actually, she looks like Laura Palmer. Lanette kickboxes, and dominates her boyfriend. Dave hasn't been so dominated lately. He goes through stages, and he's in an uppity one right now. When I think of this trouble on the homefront, I forget all about my new girl. But Lanette told me she would meet me in a certain chat room at four o'clock, so I prepared a very large Screwdriver, opened a bag of gummy worms and logged on. Dave sat at his machine across the room. It felt less like cheating with him there.
I suggested that everyone remove one piece of clothing. Lanette took off her shirt, Libby took off her belt, Vulpinegrrrl took off one shoe (she was at work), I took off my pants and my shirt, and the boys all made excuses. Even Dave refused to take off his pants, but I lied and told the chatters that he did. Lanette and Vulpinegrrrl typed that they wanted to put Dave over their knees and take turns spanking him. I looked over and caught Dave with his hands down his pants! There I was in just underwear and socks and Dave couldn't keep his eyes off the scrolling text on his screen. He'd crashed my date and taken over.
Mad, I threw on a coat and boots and went for a walk. It was warm and raining. "I know," I thought, "I'll call him from a phone booth and have phone sex! Then I'll stop halfway through and call Lanette and stop halfway through with her, and everyone will be unsatisfied and interrupted." But I didn't have any money. "Oh, I'll use a friend's house!" But then I realized it might be rude to visit someone and excuse myself to go masturbate on their phone. I made myself a bet instead: When I get home, Dave will be A. still online, B. only slightly erect, and C. saying something really weird. If I'm right about all three, then he's my true love and we should have a baby. If I get two out of three, then I have an unhealthy obsession with my husband and to get my life back I should quit my job and run away to Columbia with Lanette. If I get only one right, that means Dave never loved me and I have to empty all his drawers in the yard and set his clothes on fire.
I went upstairs to see what my future held. A was true; so was B. I looked at the screen for the last thing Dave had typed to find the answer to C.
"Vulpinegrrrl," he wrote, "have you ever kissed a woman in the presence of her refrigerator?"
Vulpinegrrrl typed: "???"
Dave continued: "One time a woman caught me making out with her refrigerator."
"???" is exactly how I felt when Dave and I were first dating and I didn't understand anything he said. I think I blushed for three months straight. He'd be rude and controlling and then inordinately modest. I don't know if he's stopped being that way or I've learned to ignore him. Knowing I'm tied up with this strange man forever has become a low, comforting ache.
"Get offline," I said. "I want to hear more about the refrigerator, and I don't want those girls to know."
"I gotta go to work," Dave typed, and logged off. He came over and pushed me off my chair and climbed on top of me, unbuttoning my coat. He was high from his chat conquests and he didn't want to be in bed doing the regular things.
"You know what I think I'm going to do tonight after you've fallen asleep?" he said. "I'm going to put on my sleazy underwear from Mexico, and I'm going to go out into the kitchen. I'm going to get an ice cube and let it drip all over my naked chest. Then you know what I'm going to do? Push myself up against the refrigerator like this. Then I'm going to put my knee between my legs like this." His knee went between my legs.
"You can't do that, Dave you'd have to take your knee off your body to put it between your own legs."
"Of course I can if I want to. You're too practical."
When Dave calls me too practical, I feel virginal: eager for him to sneak me out of my reality, yet leery of what might happen if he succeeded. One time he supposedly astral-projected we were on the phone and he floated upward out of his body and came up my stairs, he said, to look at me. I didn't believe him, of course, and I was a little embarrassed by the whole thing, but I was also aroused that he carried his prank out so thoroughly on me, never admitting he was just fooling around. When he was twenty-five, Dave let his tricks go too far and he started forgetting what was real. He ended up with his whole body so stiff from crazy visions he couldn't move; he was in the hospital for days. Ever since, he has tried to tone it down to occasional scenarios, like pretending to have lustful inclinations towards the refrigerator.
"Do you really like Lanette?"
I said I did.
"Do you ever think about her when you masturbate with your finger?"
I don't masturbate with my finger, I told him.
"Oh, you should! I do all the time." Well what else would he masturbate with? But once Dave starts equating absurd with sexy, it's useless to say anything to him. "It doesn't have to feel like your own hand. It could be anyone's hand. Let me show you."
I thought, I'm laying on my office floor wearing just an opened coat while a weirdo who used to believe in vampires pins my shoulders under his knees and lectures me on masturbation techniques.
He took my finger and made it pat and twirl me. Lanette had typed that she would be thinking of me and Dave "at certain moments" this weekend. I made it Lanette's finger, then I felt guilty, because maybe she just wants to be friends and I'm taking advantage of her, so I turned it into Dave's friend Matt's (I know he wants to have sex with me; he keeps on saying so), then I felt guilty because I think too much about Matt, so it became the finger of somebody I don't know. "See, you're starting to like it," Dave said. But I guess I didn't start liking it fast enough, because he threw my finger aside and took over the ministrations himself. "Oh there," he said, "now you really like it. Do you know how I know?" He just wanted to embarrass me by making me admit that I was perceptibly rising under his fingertip. I'm upset enough about the whole penis envy thing without talking about getting mini-erections! Who wants mini anything when you're feeling frisky? No, you want to be mighty. As I got more excited, he said, "Come in my hand, come in my hand," which I found both titillating and annoying. He crowed, "See, you do like just the hand."
"But I like this," I thought, squeezing his entire thin, mean body inside my arms and grasping legs. Lanette says she does bad things in her secret life. I'm not sure what a "bad thing" is. But wondering if my husband might be crazy, or maybe a little crazy, and how uncomfortable or queasy the things he says makes me feel that is definitely a secret life, that is what turns me on. But I couldn't explain it, so I panted instead, and let him think he was right it was just the hand.
Lisa Carver and Nerve.com, Inc.








Commentarium (20 Comments)
In this article, Lisa talks about her "virtual" relationship with one of her readers, and the possibility arises for a real life encounter between the two.
I'm curious to know what some of her readers think about people in her position. By that, I mean should the sort of..."sexual celebrities"...that we have in today's society have sex with people they've encountered through their trade?
People in this industry (especially the women) are percieved as being very promiscuous, brazen & carnal- not emotional. We are shown only one side of their lives and we build the rest from our own imaginations. We ignore or rebuke all evidence of true identities. Their public persona oft becomes a mask of their real selves. In their private lives they are married, work hard & pay bills. In their public lives they are our lascivious, glamorous super heros.
When they act, or even just attempt to act, on the characteristics we have pushed upon them- they are instantly labeled scandalous sluts!
Why the double edged sword- the catch 22?
Should sexual celebrities sleep with people they've encountered through their trade? And how much of that depends on their marital status/standing (i.e. Married & Swinging? Dating & on the prowl? etc.), how long they've known the person they're in pursuit of and if it's recreational or some deeper, stronger connection is attempting to be formed? And what do you think the repercussions would be?
I'm curious to know...
Tell me...
Lisa, tell me, have you ever had sex with any of your readers male or female EVER? Is that why you have a strict "no-sex" policy now...because of a bad experience in the past? Dying to know. From how you describe Lanette, I'm sure Dave would enjoy watching.......
Dear VG. I'm sure that Lisa isn't the first sexual celebrity to encounter this "problem" if you consider it one. I think that celebrities of all walks of entertainment have had sexual encounters with their fans, many of which never turn out to be more than just that encounters. If you're the type of person that enjoys that type of thing, more power to ya! Personally, it would leave me feeling quite empty. I would hope that someone would want to get to know me for who I am as a person, instead of wanting to make love to me because of my status as a celebrity. If I met the person and liked them and then formed some sort of friendship with them, then yes, I'd sleep with them if the situation arose. I wouldn't condone cheating on a spouse if that was the case, but if the person is single or into swinging then why not. If I were a celebrity, that's how I'd handle it. You'd really have to be a good judge of character (to decide whether they wanted you for who you ARE as a person, or who you ARE as a celebrity). That's just what I think.
Hi guys! These are very interesting questions. Actually, Dave was a reader before I met him (of my book, not the diaries). But the thing with the diaries is -- whatever sex I have that weekend, that's what's gonna be posted the next week, so I think Diary readers will be forming paragraphs in their head while we're doing it, and they won't be able to concentrate. And I won't be able to concentrate, because I'll be thinking about them thinking. Can you imagine?
When you are a celebrity, you are sort of expected to
perform. If you are a musician, you're expected to play
music a lot. If you are an actor, you're expected to
talk about film. If you are a sex writer, you're expected
to sleep around. It is a side effect of being a celebrity,
and the only unusual thing is the type of celebrity.
Celebrity comes with its pros and cons, and having an
image that you are expected to live up to is one of the
main cons. Once you decide how you want to deal with that
aspect of celebrity, the rest is up to you. In any industry
you have celebrities that interact with their fans on
many levels, from the stereotypical rock star that sleeps
with a different groupie every night to the extremely
private actor about whom nothing of their private lives
is known. Decide where on the scale you want to be and
stick to it without apology.
But aren't I supposed to be playing a real person? This is a sex diary, not a good sex diary or multiple partners sex diary. When I took the job, I agreed to tell the truth about what was really going on, not go BACK to a period in my life when I went hunting every night. During that period, I was too nuts to have 1,000 words completed every Wednesday, nor did I care to understand any of what was happening. I just wanted more to HAPPEN. Aren't most people like that? The people who would be best at this particular job aren't capable of holding down this job. I'm not complaining -- I'm happy. Just chatting away. Why, do you think I should have sex with you? Ooh, I gotta go now -- eat a hot dog, heh heh. No really, I am!
If I were a musician, I wouldn't jam with everyone in the audience, right? Another problem with not having an anti-sex-with-readers policy is this: What if I chose one person and not others? Not like I'm the biggest prize in the world, but I must admit I get requests for coming to someone's house -- all over this country and others -- several times a week. If I don't say no to EVERYBODY, then I'm saying SOME are unattractive. Like our preschool teachers told us -- if you don't have enough to share with everybody, keep it to yourself. As you can see, I'm the victim here.
Kidding.
Yeah, SURE, you're kidding.
*winx*
I think the way you are carrying on with VG is/will be misconstrued as favoritism. So, I can see where your rule may be the best idea for your own good and the good of others.
That's all I want, No Initials -- the good of others.
No, no, no No Initials. You've got it all wrong. Didn't you read the diary entry? Lisa is playing favorites with Lanette, Dave's playing favorites with me. See?*winx, smirking*I'm kidding.
Yeah, Lisa just wants the GOOD of others...*heh*
I've been a fan of Lisa's since early Rollerderby issues and I've been missing her now that they've stopped -- only to find her here! Her writings have always been equally for the mans and the ladies of the world. Lisa writes about all of the details of all situations, sex and otherwise, that make them interesting. No matter if you agree on her take, it's always, always intersting. I love the things she notices, and I love that you've gotten her writing for this project. Yay! No more lisa withdrawals!
--christine
Thanks for this and all of your bent observations. Your words make me feel free and naughty.
Wretched Excess
I didn't mean to sound like I was criticizing your decision
to avoid sex with readers. On the contray, I think it is
probably the best policy. It is certainly better than the
policy of having sex with *all* your readers.
But you shouldn't let that policy get in the way of having
a good time, either. You shouldn't rule out someone you
are interested in just because they happen to read your
diary. In fact, you might want to make an exception in
order to prove the rule.
If I were in your place, I'd probably have the same policy.
However I doubt I'd have the same willpower.
All right Lisa Fanclub Members. All right already. I personally think it's pretty phenominal that Lisa is as accessible as she is. She actually RESPONDS to our missives here in her little chat zone; she sometimes indicates that one or another of us has started her mind toward the special place... Isn't it kind of a lot to assume that she might want to mess with her marriage? i mean, marriage is another step one takes; away from the problems involved with whether this person I've just done it with has been with someone wrong the night (or the afternoon) before. Among the advantages of being married is the freedom from all that mess. Also if you have hooked up with somebody really good, you will never as long as you live get to the end of that person's thrill potential. (I'm rambling. Please forgive rambling.) If she is so open as to say 'Looky here into my diary' and even say someone here has started her up, let's not start advising such an amazingly open person as to whether she shouldn't also open her fluids for us all to drink. Pull-lee-uz!!! (you got me babe...)
I just read "Some Of My Best Friends" again and I know why I'm so into you. The personality tests that say 'what do you prefer, red or blue' I always say 'red & blue'. I used to be a sexualist with a need to attract sensualist girls. Now I'm a sensualist with the sexualist's voracity. The two minute intensity that builds and lasts for hours - as many as possible. Don't you want Dave to get at least three or four comes before you're through? And the notion of you wanting to diddle everybody you like -- you started it so I shouldn't blame my fellow fanclubbers for wishing they could augment your experience for you, Hotsy.
Oh those minis! I thought they were "more, please" shudder spasms until I was damn near 30, had a major, then a few interesting experiences wearing tampons, and clued in. Minis for me hiccup upward, a few scant centimeters, and majors rise to at least the chest and then crash down most mightily. There are sometimes semi-indefinite minis after the mighties, and finally an insane series of sparks that shoot out the clit and the feet. To conclude on minis, if someome asked me if I was orgasmic, I would have looked at them blankly and said that I was quite satisfied regardless of the exact answer to their question. I WOULDN'T GO BACK!
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