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The Lisa Files by Lisa Carver Mean Sheets
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December 3, 2001


We all know men commit more violent acts. But they're not the ones thinking about cruelty. It's we women who pinch the sheets at three a.m., contemplating injustice and plotting revenge. At least, I've never caught the men in my bed staring balefully back at my baleful stare in the pre-dawn glow. No, men are peaceful by night. They sleep.


    

While having at it with her husband, a friend of mine has the recurring fantasy that he isn't her husband at all, but her lover. Then her "husband" comes home early and catches them. He ties her hands and makes her suck the "lover's" cock while Husband shoots off Lover's limbs one by one, till all that's left is a cock in her mouth. This friend doesn't have anything against her husband, and if someone did threaten his life, I'm certain she'd risk her own to save him. There's such a thicket of secretive cruelty in the female mind!


    

Most of the men polled about their cruelest sexual moment answered: "Uh . . . when I got broken up with?" while the women were quick with detailed histories of their vicious moments.



ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
Lisa Carver is the author of the books Dancing Queen, Rollerderby, The Lisa Diaries and Drugs Are Nice. She's written for Hustler, Index, Icon, Feed, Newsday and Playboy, among others. She lives in New Hampshire.

©2001
Lisa Carver and Nerve.com, Inc.

Commentarium (35 Comments)

Dec 03 01 - 5:01am
jdw

I wonder whether more men behave cruelly but don't conceive of their actions as cruel. One way to get at that would be to ask people who have sexually engaged with men about men's cruelty.

Dec 03 01 - 6:07am
fhog

Interesting stories, but its hard to believe that men don't know when they've been cruel. I do. Maybe they just don't want to reveal that to Lisa and the readers here. Of course, women tend to reveal more of themselves when they're comfortable, and maybe women tend to feel more at ease with Lisa and this forum than men? Who knows? Most sexual cruelty is psychological rather than physical. Is it that women take sex on more of a psychological level than many men? Hard to say, and too easy to generalize. Sexually, I've been both destructive and have been destroyed. I was cruelest with my first wife (very young, both of us) and was humiliated best by one of her friends...as I should have been. Back then, sex 'proved' everything and everything hung on sex. It was so easy to be destroyed in that vulnerability that the cruelty was virtually self-inflicted.

Dec 03 01 - 6:56am
dl

men, apparently, don't have to think about being cruel. we just are. like the best basketball players, it is all instinct. ask paul pierce to explain the baseline drive through traffic finished off with the one-handed reverse flush and he'll ask, what the fuck are you talking about? you can't plot these things. the toupe' wipe is an example: genius, hilarious, accidental

Dec 03 01 - 10:04am
sg

llc is cruel when she only writes 192 words and "interviews" other people instead, and then gets all pissy when people call her on it...

Dec 03 01 - 10:07am
me!

It's lcc, not llc. Lisa Crystal Carver. Thank you!

Dec 03 01 - 2:50pm
ST

Great story. It took me back to my early mean sheet days when i wholeheartedly pursued engaged bride-to-be's. Still can't believe it was my thing. Nice break in the day.

Dec 03 01 - 3:00pm
jb

i have to say i have liked you r stories the most
being single its hard to find a women with am ind and heart you have
just wanted to say thank you for every thing
take care adn good luck i enjoy every thign you have don so far

Dec 03 01 - 3:29pm
lcc

Dear Tony: That picture was taken after Husband and I had a fight and then we had sex and the sheet came off and then the MATTRESS came off (but not my clothes, oddly enough). He took this picture about one second after it was over, and I forgot to stay mad. But sure, we can change the photo. As for your relationship ... hm. How old are you?

Dec 03 01 - 4:42pm
tdc

Lisa,
Was that last question rhetorical? I'm 40. And *horrified* at my own ignorance. I thought this was "letter to the editor" e-mail, not a message board! My aforementioned special friend frequents this site more regularly than I do! I'm dead meat if she reads any of this unintentional soul baring. Oh, my lord. Nerve giveth, Nerve taketh away. Or, maybe I have reached new lows in passive-aggressiveness.

Dec 03 01 - 5:54pm
gj

The meanest for me to date was with someone who I'd been, I guess you could say platonicly courting for some months, friends for over a year and possibly soulmates. I was in love with her for months, we spent a lot of time together, at least on the phone for hours every evening if we weren't together doing something. On the evening she came over for me to cook dinner and for us to watch "Henry & June" together (she suggested the video) I motioned to kiss her and she got up and literally ran out of my place. Later, she told me she began seeing someone else earlier in the week.

Dec 03 01 - 6:17pm
ike

Who is Tony and who is tdc talking to? Something's missing here. What the hell is going on.

Dec 03 01 - 6:45pm
lcc

Ike: I responded to Tony's initial feedback, and when he wrote in that he didn't mean it to be public, someone in Nerve kindly took his first thing down.

Dec 03 01 - 7:13pm

good lord.. the toupee story is brilliance... I can't stop thinking about it! And that poor unknowing man! And the evil kid party thrower! And so on!

Dec 03 01 - 7:57pm
T.V.

Mine was when I experienced anal sex for the first time, it was raunchy, painful, and messy but after the first complicated entry into my anus it was blissful (I even let him come in my anus!) I bled and came too!

Dec 03 01 - 8:40pm
SB

Not to brag, but I think I can beat alot of the mean sex accounts listed here. In college, I was the athletic trainer for our rugby team. I made the mistake of getting sexually involved with one of the players...a very attractive, yet outspoken young man. Yes, outspoken. Well, for some reason everyone on the team called him big-dick Colin.

After a game one night, the whole team went out. In his drunken stupidity, Colin decided to tell the team the he and I had been sleeping together...and that it was the best sex he had ever had. I was so pissed off that I had to chime in with, "yeah, and there's nothing to back up the big-dick nickname, either."

Dec 04 01 - 8:28am
ts

i had a boyfriend i didn't like very much once. he had been with his previous g/f for 7 years cheated on her constantly. he told me about how he got her to have threesomes even though she wasn't into it and now he wanted one from me. one night we went out with another couple and i sort of hinted that at the end of the evening we were all going home together. he had been insisting on having a 3 some with myself and another girl. what he didn't know is that the other male and i had been conspiring against him. 3/4's of the way through the evening i popped the the other girl into a cab and sent her home, telling the b/f she was too drunk. we were now a 3some, but on my terms. we all went home, they were both drunk and i got my b/f very excited and then suddenly "lost interest" i told him the only thing that could please me was to see him and the other man together. he whined and pleaded but eventually relentred. after they were finished (oral sex only) and he fell asleep i went in the other room and fucked the other guys brains out. my boyfriend woke to see me sleeping in the other mans arms and started to cry. i told him to suck it up (like he did the night before-ha!) and we went home. i dumped him on the spot and never looked back.

Dec 05 01 - 2:37pm
CS

TS wins, hands down.

Dec 05 01 - 4:16pm
CS

My attempt at cruelty failed almost comically, which is probably a good thing:
I'd been dating a woman who was truly a nymphomaniac. If you've never been with a true nympho, trust me, it's not everything you might hope for. The constant sex, while distracting in a good way, could not mask myriad other behavioural and personality defects. Bottom line, after a few weeks with this woman, I didn't want to share a beer with her, much less a bed.
Anyway, I was young, and hormonally motivated, so against better judgement, I consented to the fairwell fuck. Anyway, during the activity, I'm getting pissed off about having given in to another manic sex romp (imagine!), and she's yammering away at what an ass I am for breaking things off. So as I get progressively angrier, I start fucking her harder. As you would imagine, she thought that was pretty cool - she liked her sex vigorous. So the angrier I am, the harder I'm going, the happier she is, the angrier I get - viscious cycle, you get the idea. Anyway, by the end of this thing, I am bound and determined to find her threshold, and pounding away for all I am worth to try to cause injury. Mind you, I have serious issues with this, given that 2 women whom I hold very dear have been victims of rape. The punch line is that loved the entire experience, and was convinced that this episode was an expression of desire/affection/love, whatever. I had such remorse afterwords not only that I had attempted to hurt someone in the process of an act that I hold sacred, but also because I had failed! A friend in whom I confided commented with admiration "Dude, you hate-fucked her, cool!"

Dec 06 01 - 4:20pm
M2

I've never been intentionally cruel to anyone....and if I have been unintentionally cruel or hurtful, I hope I never find out cause I don't think I could handle it.

But the cruelest thing ever said to me was when I was a young impressionable 15 year old. I was seeing this girl, 18....thought she was my girlfriend...turns out I was just a regular dalliance for her. She was my first...and I was really nervous every time...never knowing if I was any good or if she liked me and my body.

At some neighborhood party of hers....I was there after we had had some sex and then a huge argument (subject long forgotten).....she was talking with some friends of hers (mostly guys).....she wheeled around and without ANY warning yelled at the top of her lungs "You have the tiniest dick I have ever seen and you are a horrible fuck!! Get out of here!!!". She yelled this at me......

I slinked away........I'm 37 now and whenever I am with someone for the first time (or every time) I still hear that. ...even after several positive reviews from others .

Funny thing is.....about 12 years later she showed up at the bar I was working at and wanted a "repeat performance".......she didn't even remember saying it.

Dec 07 01 - 12:06pm
SB

Wow, TS, that goes way beyond anything I think I'm capable of. Update on the Rugby story....Saturday night is their christmas party, and I'm being honored for all that I did for the team...lol...what's really great is that little dick colin is now team president...and he is presenting me with the award. the whole thing has had me laughing for the past two days

Dec 07 01 - 1:13am
ra

Last New Year's eve, I went out with the girl of my dreams. I had been obsessed with this girl for about a year. We had been out previously a few times. As lame as it sounds I thought this girl was the most beautiful girl in the world. She's smart, sexy, funny, drop dead gorgeous, nice ass, great tits, eyes to die for, keen sense of style, the total package. Anyway I always figured that she was lukewarm about going out with me. We didn't date exclusively, although I didn't want date anyone else. Once at a party, she started macking with this guy on the dance floor in front of me. This of course devastated me. But being pathetic as I was, I still held on to thoughts of her.
When New Year's rolled around I invited my "obssession" for an evening of festivities. Even after being invited out by this other girl whom I had previously slept with, I decided to go out with my "obssession." I had figured I would run into the the girl who invited me out anyway. After a nice dinner at a fancy schmancy resturaunt, my "obssession" and I went out bar hopping. We ran into my "invitation." My plan worked out fairly well. I flirted with my "invitation" and invited her to an after hours party. At the after hours party I abandoned my "obssession," in order to take home and fuck the "invitation" girl. After taking my "invitation" home and fucking our brains out I returned to the party to see what was up with the girl of my dreams. She was pissed.

Dec 07 01 - 11:32am
m

My first marriage was a total disater. My husband was a complete "mama's boy" and spent all his free time with her and made all decisions with her. I was looking for an excuse to get out of this marriage, and suspected him of cheating. One fine Sunday he spent the entire day with his mother and sister. I spent the afternoon in bed with a gorgeous African American man. I am color blind but my ex-husband is not. I got home thinking I had enough time to shower but my ex arrived shortly after I did. He talked to me about getting a separation. I immediatley said yes, while thinking divorce. He ran to the phone to call his mommy to tell her I said yes. So when he asked if we could make love one more time I said yes, but he had eat me first. I asked him how I tasted. Before he could answer, I said never mind, I don't feel like having sex right now.

Dec 07 01 - 4:41pm
MM

I had just gotten divorced + was sleeping with 3 girls independantly of one another. They all knew about each other + all but one was OK with it. M. was completely in love with me + looked at me with puppy dog eyes. We ended up dating for a while. When we finally busted up, she wouldn't leave + always ended up in my bed again. One night as we had sex, she was telling me that she loved me. I felt so empty + numb all I wanted was to be somewhere else. I was feeling guilty about the divorce and about having sex with this woman who loved me that I did not love. Without thinking, I found myself chanting, "I love you. I hate you. I love you. I hate you" in rythym with my slow stroking in + out of her. She was crying and kissing me. "Shhhh. Shhhh." she said. But I meant it.

Dec 09 01 - 12:21am
JV

Lisa, that is the first real laugh i ve gotten out of your files for months. what are they doing to you there,,at the magazine,,,fucking your shit??? what the heck happend with you and what s his name,,werent you planning on gettin pregnant? by the way,,i couldnt think of a WORSER thing to do .......love ya,,,jenn

Dec 08 01 - 1:03pm
td

You can't be mean to genuis. Lisa's is loud and lovely.

Dec 09 01 - 8:59am
CMC

I was the in SF and wanderd into a bar in the castro. Few too many drinks, a little tok and woke up w/ no pants and too many used condoms laying around..walked sort of funny for a few days. I guess that qualifies. I felt a little used but lesson learned and pushed that "bi" fantasy out of my head..

Dec 09 01 - 4:48pm
S80

My most harsh sex moment was losing my virginity in a park 11 o'clock @ night, Father's Day (omigod, I remember those details?!). We met through a so called friend of mine contacted each other and shortly after I left his sisters' house we decided to screw @ a nearby park. He was not @ all gentle and I remeber my fake orgasmic cries came out as ouch's. LOL, but yeah, that's pretty cruel if you ask me and he didn't even kiss me afterward, guess the sex was bad or the guy thought he was some major player (lied and said I wasn't a virgin anyway, ha-ha).LOL.

Dec 09 01 - 11:48pm
NDD

I have my own "sexual cruelty" story. I was 21 and had just broken up with my boyfriend of 5 and 1/2 years, about a month after I met this sexy guy through some friends at a party. I offered him a ride home, we couldn't wait so I pulled over at a park and we started going at it on the car. I was into it at first but I began to think about my ex when we moved to the picnic bench - and it ruined my mood. He started trying everything to get some kind of response out of me (positions, biting,licking, etc.). Finally he asked me to tell him what to do. I violently pushed him away from me and screamed out "You've tried everything and you still can't seem to turn me on! You're sexy, but you're a lousy fuck so lets just go!". I never apologized or told him what was going on with me that night.

Dec 13 01 - 2:33pm
ew

i had finally decided to let my boyfriend finger me- ooh, it's been so long since i've used the word 'finger' but that's pretty much what it was, at first. he got so turned on he grabbed a balloon off my wall and slipped it on him and tried to fuck me like that. like i was going to let THIS be my FIRST time? i fought him but he entered me once and came like the pussy he was in 2 strokes. i broke up with him and he laughed. my next boyfriend waited but when we finally did i was turned off emotionally. i used sex to control and shopped my conquests like a man for years after that. thank god i met a sexual deviant that can balance life with it in nerve personals...we've been together for a year and the wedding is next year... rock on nerve- the only place to get your mind intellectually and aesthetically stimulated and find a naughty husband.

Dec 13 01 - 2:43pm
bb

i snuck into my sisters bedroom(she & her 3 mo. old baby were out of town) and had sex with a lead singer from a band - we heard my brother and his cronies come in but never stopped. we were drunk and particularly verbal while we were having maniacal one nite stand sex...when we finally came out- my bro and his buddies all stood up and clapped and yelled "oh my god your making me cum" --- my sister's BABY MONITOR had been on and they heard the whole thing in stereo.

Dec 15 01 - 5:36am
ejm

Damn. Will Liz Armstrong go out with me?

Hi, Lisa it's Erik, formerly Gearik, who used to to the Gourmandizer zine. Those Gearik years were weird and cool ... true mental illness! I've seen it from the INSIDE!

That's great that you have a column in Nerve, nerve.com is one of my favorite sites, visit it every day.

I've kindled freindships with a few people I was already acquainted with through the personals (http://www.nerve.com/personals/preview_ad.asp?PRID=2880974), but still haven't had and orgasm through them, or met someone with a nose big enough to really get me off.

Are you still in touch with Vicky? Me and dan stay in touch through email every few months. But I've totally ignored music for years ... at least whatever I was listening to has turned into. I now mostly listen to Claudine Longet and Vince Guaraldi.

- Erik gozz@gozz.com

Dec 15 01 - 7:10am
lcc

Jackie and Erik: Thanks for writing, guys! That wasn't cheesie. I'm happy to hear from you. Emma usually takes mistaken feedbacks off for me. Other Nerve techs, if you're reading this, can you remove those two feedbacks? Thanks!!

Jan 22 02 - 9:15pm
EGJ

Lisa, I am so enthralled with the topics you get people to share with you. I caught the show last Saturday and loved it. If you ever need another cameraperson(though it would seem that you prefer women in that capacity:), I would love to help out. i can think of a great MeanSheets story for you, but I am not sure if that is still open anymore. Either way, I look forward to "hearing" from you (or actually meeting you) someday. BTW, can someone be both a sexualist AND a sensualist? I'm having identity crises...

Jan 22 02 - 9:24pm
EGJ

Alright, dammit. I'll fess up; when I was twenty I was seeing a girl every now and then who was four years my junior(hey, if you had seen her breasts you would've been tempted too), and one day after fooling around for hours, she finally decided to let me go down on her. I was the first and determined to ruin her for all other mouths. When her parents started knocking to let us know that I had to get a move on if I wanted to catch my train, we tidied up and got to stepping. I was not permitted enough time to hit the bathroom and "freshen-up", so I was escorted from her bedroom door to the car. Her parents seemed none the wiser about or proclivities and if I wasn't sure if they knew, her mother gives me a big kiss on the cheek on the way out the door. My face was still modrately fragrant(okay I'm a sensualist), and I was loving it, but to this day I wonder if her mother knew what the scent on my cheeks REALLY was...

more to come-

Apr 30 06 - 10:02am
CH

I am wondering about one of your contributors, Bernadette Boscoe. I am looking for someone with that name and want to know, if possible if this is the same Bernadette Boscoe. The Bernadette I knew went to Pratt Institute in Brooklyn, NY graduated from there in 1993 as a Fine Arts major. If this is the same Bernadette, would you please let me know and either send me her email or foward mine to hers? My email is higbyc1@yahoo.com

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