Ahat is it about sex that makes us lust for advice from septuagenarians? You can't help but wonder that while watching the wheezin'-but-still-kickin' Oxygen network's surprising new hit, Talk Sex, a call-in chat show hosted by a spry seventy-something (she won't give her exact age) named Sue Johanson. Friendly and fluent in everything from oral to anal to triple-pronged vibrators, this registered nurse from Ontario, Canada, is poised to become America's next resident sexpert — you know, right after that other straight-talking spring chicken, the seventy-four-year-old Dr. Ruth Westheimer.


Johanson: previously young


    Actually, autumn-of-life sex pundits aren't so hard to explain. It's a comfort thang. If you're young and sexually active, and you've got a sensitive question — you're wondering if you can stick that there — do you really want to consult a wise-assed contemporary? Like Dr. Ruth, Johanson comes across like a super cool mom — a really super, super cool mom with an encyclopedic knowledge of sexual positions and an insane porn collection.
     Instead of innuendo, the host-caller exchanges on Talk Sex have a straightforward feel. Callers aren't trying to be coy with Johanson, and she's not playing coy with them. It's just plain and frank info. Johanson, who speaks with a bouncy, Canadian-inflected lilt — she pronounces "clitoris" like it's a Amazonian insect, and you practically wish that Mike Myers was back on Saturday Night Live just so he could parody her — is refreshingly non-judgmental and preach-free.
 
    
Consider this exchange between Johanson and a caller named Joanne:
    "I have a question," Joanne said to Johanson. "Me and my fiancé, when we're having sex, he likes to go into the sixty-nine position. But I'm kind of afraid I'm going to suffocate him. How do I get over that fear?"

    At this point, I was pretty sure this "Joanne" was going to break character and you'd hear an entire dorm room explode in raucous laughter. Johanson listened and replied, earnest as iced tea on a summer afternoon:
    "Sixty-nine position — so you're going to suffocate him?" she asked. "So he's on the bottom, and you're on the top?"
    "Yes," Joanne said.
    "Switch!" Johanson said.
    Sounded good to me.
    "He doesn't like it," Joanne protested. "He likes me on top."
    

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What a lazy doof, I thought. Johanson was more forgiving:
    "That's fine," Johanson said. "He takes his choice. Either he gets what he wants, or he takes a chance of suffocating." She paused for a moment. "Can we just go back? How are you going to suffocate him?"
    "I just feel because I am a heavier-set person, and I feel very uncomfortable with it."
    "Does he complain?"
    "No, he never complains."
    
"Okay, why would you worry about it," Johanson said. "He'll tell you. If he's gasping for breath, turning blue, and you need to do CPR, then you'll know he's got a problem. Other than that, I wouldn't worry about it. He'll tell you. Guys don't hesitate to tell females what they like. We're the ones who are reluctant to tell a guy what we like. Because nice girls aren't supposed to know what they like."
    It was good, common-sense, positive advice. And it's harder to deliver than it looks. When a prepubescent caller asks if she can get pregnant by wearing her undies inside-out, or if ejaculate tastes like ranch dressing, Johanson can't take her index finger and make a ding-a-ling motion next to her head. Thankfully, Johanson, who started a sex-education clinic in her hometown during the '70s, is from the no-dumb-questions school. Joanne, bless her, got her sixty-nine question addressed respectfully. Seems nothing can faze Johanson: when one caller requested a reasonably classy adult film, Johanson instantly recommended the Candida Royale oeuvre. "It's not heavily into the whoomph whoomph whoomph bits," she said.
    Not to get all judgmental and preachy after praising Johanson for being neither, but there's a flat-out value in this kind of programming. Sure, Talk Sex can be silly, like when Johanson bounced around in an Adult Jolly Jumper sex swing ("I feel like Peter Pan!" she exclaimed). No doubt Oxygen is having it both ways — people will tune into Talk Sex (and reruns of Johanson's previous Canadian program, The Sunday Night Sex Show) both to laugh and to learn. But there's education to go with this entertainment, and it's the kind of education that, if STD and HIV rates are any indicator, remains fearfully inadequate. Surely, some will object to Johanson's frankness, claiming that thirteen year olds with basic cable are going to get pregnant or run out and buy glass dildos. But those objectors are, frankly, dopes.
    I still remember the first time I heard Dr. Ruth. Once I stopped laughing about the way she said 'PEEEE-nis' — it took about a month — she made a major impact on my curious but profoundly sex-ignorant brain. Given that my chief source of sex information was a bunch of other twelve-year-old boneheads, I was struck by Westheimer's poise and the seriousness with which she treated her callers; every query was granted the kind of dignity that was impossible to find in a junior-high cafeteria. Did listening to Dr. Ruth turn me into a raging juvenile horndog? No. I just was a little smarter about sex, and a lot more respectful. Will Talk Sex ruin the morals of American kids? No. Whether it's from a parent or a teacher or a TV star, everyone can afford to know a little more about the whoomph whoomph whoomph bits.
 




©2003 Ryan Tuthill and Nerve.com.

Commentarium (11 Comments)

Mar 17 03 - 9:45am
JR

I'm a long time fan of her show, "The Sunday Night Sex Show" (note, it's Sunday, not Saturday). She's quite wonderful. I think most callers are genuine and a few are pranks, and she quickly weeds those out when it becomes obvious they're making it up.

Mar 17 03 - 12:43pm
mmj

YAY!

Sue is an amazing person. I'm so glad to see her here.

I had the opportunity to bring her to McGill University to talk about sex, when I was in school then. She is as down-to-earth and practical as the advice she dispenses.

Mar 17 03 - 5:19pm
ab

I saw her show one night at my boyfriend's hosue and I was captivated by hershow. She displayed poise and intelligence and common sense when answering live callers's questions. She really did remind me of a really super, super cool mom, or grandmother. She's awesome, god(dess) bless her!

Mar 18 03 - 2:24pm
BCS

At 62 I can appreciate old school sex advice; I think Dr Ruth Westheimer is forthright and very aware of current sex practices (imagine her training as an Israeli sniper back in the late 1940s). I have a girlfriend of 34 and we have great sex--I am blessed with a slim muscular body and we have gone to nude beaches and resorts and I do get aroused easily, much to my babes amusement--she likes to tease Mr Happy in the pool or the whirlpool. But at my age I cant get into most of the positions on the nerve site, but I love being on my back with Sheri on top, doing all the work.

Mar 18 03 - 4:00pm
NKM

In regards to the last paragraph on this amazing review: Though i also found Dr. Ruth's show educational and somewhat hilarious, i do feel that the interest i took in sex as an adolescent was only fueled by what i heard. I was intrigued and by many standards i was consumed by sex (no pun intended). BUT, i was educated and strong, and because of the quest for knowledge about sex that i undertook, my friends gained the knowledge as well. So i believe, that regardless of the age of the reader/viewer, these insights will do nothing but good for them. And i firmly believe that because of my 'educated' stature and view of sex, i have made and continue to make positive decisions. I'm all for Sex Talk!

Mar 18 03 - 4:20pm
AL

Everything I learned that was useful about sex I learned from Loveline. I think it's terrific that there are shows like this on, because I seriously learned nothing important in my school's health class. Hell, my teacher needed ME to tell her about the female condom.

Mar 21 03 - 12:42am
KR

I love this show for you be surprised to know you might not know all about sex or tips to make it even more better then what so called sex whatevers will say. I like how she is and she doesn't make anything seem like it is a sin to do.

Mar 21 03 - 5:00pm
ZS

I unfortunately am unable to watch the show at the same time as the taping being in Texas and all, but I LOVE IT!!! The fact that young, horny men and women (and children sometimes) are taking advice from a no doubt well-educated older woman who may or may not practice what she preaches makes me laugh with a sincere smile. I'm glad someone is getting the word out about this great show that it seems only far Northerners or Canadians call into.

Mar 21 03 - 8:29pm
NDM

This is an excellent article on what sounds like an excellent program to teach people about themselves. Promoting honest open discussion on what we all know we really like to do until our health issues prevent us from doing it is a good thing. Always. Kudos to the writer!

Mar 22 03 - 4:32pm
ejp

What I like about Sue's shows is that after spending so much time as a gay outcast, it's really nice to hear heterosexuals sounding so incredibly unsophisticated sexually, and to hear the periodic exasperation in Sue's voice as she explains sexual concepts and practices to people that I've been familiar with for 20 of my 34 years.

I positively adore Sue, and intend to build a shrine to her at first opportunity.

Mar 26 03 - 1:05pm
ajb

I actually came across Sue Johansen by accident and, while I must admit I did giggle about getting such blunt sex info from someone I'd normally feel more comfortable calling grandma, I was impressed by her clear, respectful explanations and her overall enthusiasm for sexuality. Thanks for the article!

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